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Originally posted by mtnbiker View PostMy ward does the chrome tray thing, too, with some kind of rice cake that the priests break up, but the deacon with that tray goes back to the sacrament table and gets a regular tray when the gluten-free people have been served. I would suggest that the gluten-free deacon just carry two trays from the start.
Heresy.
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Originally posted by Moliere View PostMy solution is simple. Anyone that doesn’t want to eat the bread provided by the hitch can bring their own bread/cereal and hold it in their hands while the priest says the prayer. Then just eat what you brought. When the tray comes to your row, just pass it along without taking any. Easy peasy.
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Originally posted by MartyFunkhouser View PostMaybe it is another snowflake in your Hold My Root Beer Prophet's snowstorm."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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Originally posted by CardiacCoug View PostSorry — no way the blessing works unless the item goes under the white lacy tablecloth. I’m sure that’s an important part of how it works."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Originally posted by Scott R Nelson View PostWhen I lived in Folsom we had several people in our ward that couldn't eat gluten. They had one tray with gluten-free bread and it was the only chrome tray, all the rest were plastic, so it was obvious that it was different. The deacon with that tray would go around first to all those that they knew needed special bread, then finish off the rows on the side. When I first moved there I was trying to figure out why a certain deacon went several rows out of his way to serve the bread to his family before giving it to the rest of the congregation. It was probably months before I understood.
I think we eventually learned to not sit in the section that got served the weird gluten-free bread.Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.
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Originally posted by chrisrenrut View PostYeah, I told the bishop that this sounded to me like some mid-level leader’s personal opinion rather than doctrine or policy. But they got our stake leaders going on it. I’m not privy to the HQ communiques anymore, so I can’t validate that part of the story.Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.
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We used to use Rice Chex too and got the same direction from our Stake President - needed to use bread that could be broken for the symbolism of the ordinance. He said it came from the First Presidency.
We've taken the approach of using the same little cups we used to use with Rice Checks on 2-3 trays. The first week our Bishop brought gluten free. One of the guys in our ward had a reaction - because I guess he's got issues with milk and egg products too. So now he brings a piece of bread from home each week that the YM break and put into those cups. They do it when setting up the table because they don't want to mix crumbs from one kind of bread with the other. So it actually doesn't get broken with the rest.
There's a couple of wards in our stake who decided to just use gluten free for the whole ward. The Bishop of one of the wards just shrugged and said they put $300 in their budget into gluten free bread for the Sacrament. We went to a missionary farewell today, and they used it for everyone as well.
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Originally posted by BigPiney View Post90 percent of those claiming gluten sensitivity are just making it up anyway. They give those with real problems like celiac disease a bad name. I say give them real bread and tell them it is gluten free. They'll be fine.As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
--Kendrick Lamar
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Originally posted by BigPiney View Post90 percent of those claiming gluten sensitivity are just making it up anyway. They give those with real problems like celiac disease a bad name. I say give them real bread and tell them it is gluten free. They'll be fine.
I’ll never forget how one of the Elders in our ward in Houston made a major deal about how all the meals provided for the missionaries had to be gluten free.
When they came over to our house for some scrambled eggs I quizzed him about his diagnosis of course.
He said something like “I never saw a doctor or had tests — I have noticed that my energy level and mood go way up when I avoid gluten.”
What a dummy!
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Originally posted by old_gregg View Postif you’re in the stake i think you’re in (c south?) that does not surprise me at all
But if Eddie’s stake has the same thing (and I think he is a Davis County guy) then it is probably being emphasized by the area or regional presidency (the mid-level leadership I was referring to in the OP).
We are ok with the symbology change from wine to water. Wine was a big deal to Jesus. His first miracle was changing water to wine miracle, he gave multiple parables of vineyards, Jesus said he is the vine, and he would not drink of the fruit of the vine afterwards the first supper. And we don’t drink out of the same cup, or use unleavened bread. It’s seems arbitrary where they draw the lines on these things.Last edited by chrisrenrut; 02-11-2019, 05:12 AM.
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Originally posted by Eddie View PostWe used to use Rice Chex too and got the same direction from our Stake President - needed to use bread that could be broken for the symbolism of the ordinance. He said it came from the First Presidency.
We've taken the approach of using the same little cups we used to use with Rice Checks on 2-3 trays. The first week our Bishop brought gluten free. One of the guys in our ward had a reaction - because I guess he's got issues with milk and egg products too. So now he brings a piece of bread from home each week that the YM break and put into those cups. They do it when setting up the table because they don't want to mix crumbs from one kind of bread with the other. So it actually doesn't get broken with the rest.
There's a couple of wards in our stake who decided to just use gluten free for the whole ward. The Bishop of one of the wards just shrugged and said they put $300 in their budget into gluten free bread for the Sacrament. We went to a missionary farewell today, and they used it for everyone as well.
Just take the water (unless you're allergic) and call it good.
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