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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    If you don't fake mouth to shirt pocket you clearly were never on church discipline as a youth. Doesn't work as well for the water, but for the bread it was easy. Didn't matter if your parents sat right next to you or not.
    yeah, but as fusnik noted years ago, shirt pockets are no longer cool. Got to improvise now.
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    I learned that, at least for a nearby Welfare ranch operation, the calves that are born there do not get shipped to a Welfare feedlot to be raised and eventually butchered, contributing to the Storehouse as a commodity. That used to happen but now, they get sold for cash. I guess Church Welfare's position is that you can buy anything in the world with money.

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    After taking the bread today, I had a coughing fit that lasted until the water circulated. I dont know what it is about non-glutin bread, but it does not agree with me. After church I asked the bishopric if I could bring some Grandma Sycamore's bread and put it in a plastic baggie, for just myself. You should have seen their faces.

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    Today I learned that the sacrament prayers do not have to be word perfect if the priest is mentally challenged (or whatever the current politically correct term is for "retarded" these days) and the bishop decides that having them participate - there were two of them - is more important than perfect wording.

    Half of the congregation wasn't sure when to say "amen" for one of them.

    This was in a ward in Cache Valley, Utah the day after my granddaughter was baptized and confirmed by my son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott R Nelson View Post
    Today I learned that the sacrament prayers do not have to be word perfect if the priest is mentally challenged (or whatever the current politically correct term is for "retarded" these days) and the bishop decides that having them participate - there were two of them - is more important than perfect wording.

    Half of the congregation wasn't sure when to say "amen" for one of them.

    This was in a ward in Cache Valley, Utah the day after my granddaughter was baptized and confirmed by my son.
    There's been a less stringent approach to Sacrament prayers the last few years... Bishop's are taking into consideration the abilities of the prayer giver, and their mental toughness to stand real time correction in front of two hundred people. Weaker prayer givers are given a wide berth because it's a worse option to have to sit through six failed prayer attempts and then ultimately surrender to a bad prayer anyway.

    You asked, I'll answer. Saying someone is "retarded" is not just politically incorrect. It's more than that. You just don't do it. That's like saying that "not" calling a black person the n-word is just being politically correct. (wink-wink) That's not true - you just don't do it. Period. Regardless of political affiliation. Mentally challenged is insulting too by the way.

    If you feel the need to comment you would say "brain injured."
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    When I blessed the Sacrament the first time, one of the sisters in the ward walked to the front and told the Bishop that I said it wrong. He did not hear anything wrong, nor did anyone else, but I recited the prayer a second time. She apologized to me after the meeting, but emphasized how important it is to be spoken correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo Diddley View Post
    When I blessed the Sacrament the first time, one of the sisters in the ward walked to the front and told the Bishop that I said it wrong. He did not hear anything wrong, nor did anyone else, but I recited the prayer a second time. She apologized to me after the meeting, but emphasized how important it is to be spoken correctly.
    Seriously? What a dumb thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clackamascoug View Post
    There's been a less stringent approach to Sacrament prayers the last few years... Bishop's are taking into consideration the abilities of the prayer giver, and their mental toughness to stand real time correction in front of two hundred people. Weaker prayer givers are given a wide berth because it's a worse option to have to sit through six failed prayer attempts and then ultimately surrender to a bad prayer anyway.
    This is good, in fact if any kid even gets close I feel they should let it go. It was a little awkward to teach about prayer on the mission and how it's not vain repetition and then go to Sacrament meeting and hear some kid say it three times because he keeps missing a word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott R Nelson View Post
    Today I learned that the sacrament prayers do not have to be word perfect if the priest is mentally challenged (or whatever the current politically correct term is for "retarded" these days) and the bishop decides that having them participate - there were two of them - is more important than perfect wording.

    Half of the congregation wasn't sure when to say "amen" for one of them.

    This was in a ward in Cache Valley, Utah the day after my granddaughter was baptized and confirmed by my son.
    Wow why did any person ever think it mattered if the prayer was perfect? Come on people!

    The Spirit told me loud and clear every single time I ever witnessed a Bishop make a poor kid repeat a prayer that the Bishop was being unkind and stupid under the influence of foolish traditions.

    Sorry ó just being honest!

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    Actually my earliest recollection of the Sacrament prayers were of a priest with a stutter saying the prayer. He repeated the prayer 6 or more times. I forget if they finally let it go, or if they had one of the other priests say the prayer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott R Nelson View Post
    Today I learned that the sacrament prayers do not have to be word perfect if the priest is mentally challenged (or whatever the current politically correct term is for "retarded" these days) and the bishop decides that having them participate - there were two of them - is more important than perfect wording.

    Half of the congregation wasn't sure when to say "amen" for one of them.

    This was in a ward in Cache Valley, Utah the day after my granddaughter was baptized and confirmed by my son.
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    The pioneers are rolling over in their graves at how easy we have it today in the church. I seriously wonder if this religion can still sufficiently produce the faith necessary for salvation.
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    My ancestors will rescue me in my weak faith. Good thing they are part of my plan. Sorry converts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katy Lied View Post
    My ancestors will rescue me in my weak faith. Good thing they are part of my plan. Sorry converts.
    Doesn't temple work for ancestors fit the bill if you're a convert? Wouldn't the very act of a convert doing temple work for her ancestors serve to strengthen the convert's faith? If it did strengthen the convert's faith couldn't we conclude that the convert's ancestors did indeed rescue the convert in her weak faith?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sullyute View Post
    The pioneers are rolling over in their graves at how easy we have it today in the church. I seriously wonder if this religion can still sufficiently produce the faith necessary for salvation.
    How do we have it easier? I mean... other than only having one wife. We still have to pray/develop a testimony of the BoM, living prophets, etc. That shit ain't easy son.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clackamascoug View Post
    There's been a less stringent approach to Sacrament prayers the last few years... Bishop's are taking into consideration the abilities of the prayer giver, and their mental toughness to stand real time correction in front of two hundred people. Weaker prayer givers are given a wide berth because it's a worse option to have to sit through six failed prayer attempts and then ultimately surrender to a bad prayer anyway.

    You asked, I'll answer. Saying someone is "retarded" is not just politically incorrect. It's more than that. You just don't do it. That's like saying that "not" calling a black person the n-word is just being politically correct. (wink-wink) That's not true - you just don't do it. Period. Regardless of political affiliation. Mentally challenged is insulting too by the way.

    If you feel the need to comment you would say "brain injured."
    This should help with this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
    In short, the only thing that is ever "retarded" is progress. As in "our progress along the Appalachian Trail was retarded by a warren of rabid rabbits." People aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVAllen View Post
    In short, the only thing that is ever "retarded" is progress. As in "our progress along the Appalachian Trail was retarded by a warren of rabid rabbits." People aren't.
    Whoa, whoa, whoa, did you even read the flow chart?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LVAllen View Post
    In short, the only thing that is ever "retarded" is progress. As in "our progress along the Appalachian Trail was thwarted by a warren of rabid rabbits." People aren't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clackamascoug View Post
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    Nah, that connotes that the rabid rabbits stopped all progress. If you mean hindered, slowed down, or delayed, it works. Similar to the musical term ritardando. You don't come to a full stop, just gradually slow.

    Of course, you could still just use hindered, slowed down, or delayed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sullyute View Post
    The pioneers are rolling over in their graves at how easy we have it today in the church. I seriously wonder if this religion can still sufficiently produce the faith necessary for salvation.
    Seriously what is the world coming to when the Bishop of the ward no longer routinely publicly humiliates teenagers with dyslexia in front of the entire ward?

    Bunch of pansies these current MOTCOJCOLDSs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacCoug View Post
    Seriously what is the world coming to when the Bishop of the ward no longer routinely publicly humiliates teenagers with dyslexia in front of the entire ward?

    Bunch of pansies these current MOTCOJCOLDSs.
    Damn straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelado View Post
    Damn straight.

    I only ever had to start over one time. And that was in Spanish, on my mission. I started reading the wrong prayer. Had to flip the card over.
    Me too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
    I would suggest people follow this chart when considering using swear words.

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    There's a special needs young man in our ward. I'm not sure what the exact diagnosis is. He can't speak though he occasionally makes really loud sounds. He has a very difficult time moving about and doesn't seem to have control of his limbs when sitting down. He demands a lot of physical exertion from his parents, not to mention the mental and emotional requirements of raising a special needs child. A few months ago I was sitting in sacrament, absent-mindedly people watching. This young man's mother was gently and affectionately rubbing her sons back. The father was on the other side of the mother and had his arm around her. The scene touched my heart. I've since watched that family every Sunday to see a beautiful Christian sermon that simply can't be spoken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOhio View Post
    There's a special needs young man in our ward. I'm not sure what the exact diagnosis is. He can't speak though he occasionally makes really loud sounds. He has a very difficult time moving about and doesn't seem to have control of his limbs when sitting down. He demands a lot of physical exertion from his parents, not to mention the mental and emotional requirements of raising a special needs child. A few months ago I was sitting in sacrament, absent-mindedly people watching. This young man's mother was gently and affectionately rubbing her sons back. The father was on the other side of the mother and had his arm around her. The scene touched my heart. I've since watched that family every Sunday to see a beautiful Christian sermon that simply can't be spoken.
    there is a family in my ward who has a daughter very similar to what you describe. her mom says she has the mental capacity of a 2 year old. she has a twin sister who has the mental capacity of a 7 year old (they are 19) - i don't think any of us can even begin to imagine how difficult their lives are, but similar to the couple you describe, they seem to be making it work and having each other's backs through this literally never ending process that will be their life on earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker View Post
    I would suggest people follow this chart when considering using swear words.
    No f***ing way
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
    No f***ing way
    Exactly. Swearing is PC now.

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