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    Quote Originally Posted by clackamascoug View Post
    You know how the saying goes... if you don't think your seminary teachers were BSC - it's because your BSC too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clackamascoug View Post
    You know how the saying goes... if you don't think your seminary teachers were BSC - it's because your BSC too.

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    I guess that's me too.

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    Few things make me want to renounce my membership more than open Q and A sessions at stake training meetings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clark Addison View Post
    Few things make me want to renounce my membership more than open Q and A sessions at stake training meetings.
    What are these meetings you speak of. Although 3 extra takes of a two measure part that the trumpets couldn't get right kinda sucked tonight too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    Since we're sharing batshit crazy things seminary teachers said, my freshman year I had a teacher who was a mortician. He was a weird dude. One day he told us he saw Satan. They had a rocking chair at the funeral home and it began to rock. Then Satan basically materialized sitting in the chair and rocking. Our seminary teacher promptly cast him out. Someone in the class asked what Satan looked like and he said he looked very neat and handsome. Lol.
    Interesting. As I think about this, I realize that I have yet to meet an LDS mortician or an LDS someone who worked for one (and strangely, I've known several) who doesn't have a similar batshit crazy story like this. I mean, I've never heard one where it was Satan, but they seem to all believe they've seen and spoken with a ghost/spirit at some point. I get the sense that it's part of the LDS after-life care culture.

    I've only known one non-LDS person in the field. She grew up in a funeral home and was mildly religious. I asked her if she had any cool stories of seeing spirits and what not and she was like "uh no, I'm not crazy, just the daughter of a mortician."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    Since we're sharing batshit crazy things seminary teachers said, my freshman year I had a teacher who was a mortician. He was a weird dude. One day he told us he saw Satan. They had a rocking chair at the funeral home and it began to rock. Then Satan basically materialized sitting in the chair and rocking. Our seminary teacher promptly cast him out. Someone in the class asked what Satan looked like and he said he looked very neat and handsome. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokymountainrain View Post
    i believe him.

    Handsome, yes, but I’ve always pictured him as more of an 80’s jazz dancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    Handsome, yes, but I’ve always pictured him as more of an 80’s jazz dancer.

    Why not both?

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    Tbh, they look kind of similar, just a few decades apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    Since we're sharing batshit crazy things seminary teachers said, my freshman year I had a teacher who was a mortician. He was a weird dude. One day he told us he saw Satan. They had a rocking chair at the funeral home and it began to rock. Then Satan basically materialized sitting in the chair and rocking. Our seminary teacher promptly cast him out. Someone in the class asked what Satan looked like and he said he looked very neat and handsome. Lol.
    What an anticlimatic scene. Satan in a rocking chair ...
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    The stake president in the ward I visited this weekend spent a good five minutes telling the EQ that the brethren are emphasizing the use of “bishop” and “president” when addressing people at church in those respective callings. Utah wards, smh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    The stake president in the ward I visited this weekend spent a good five minutes telling the EQ that the brethren are emphasizing the use of “bishop” and “president” when addressing people at church in those respective callings. Utah wards, smh.
    When serving in such an entitled office, I insisted on "Excellency." Most complied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    The stake president in the ward I visited this weekend spent a good five minutes telling the EQ that the brethren are emphasizing the use of “bishop” and “president” when addressing people at church in those respective callings. Utah wards, smh.
    You don't call your bishop "Bishop"?
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    The stake president in the ward I visited this weekend spent a good five minutes telling the EQ that the brethren are emphasizing the use of “bishop” and “president” when addressing people at church in those respective callings. Utah wards, smh.
    I didn't hear the stake president say anything in church this weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    You don't call your bishop "Bishop"?
    Not usually, even at church. We are friends and served in a bishopric together so I generally use his first name, especially in friendly chats in the hallway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelado View Post
    I didn't hear the stake president say anything in church this weekend.
    I usually don’t either. Even when he is talking.
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    Lol. Nice try, moli.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    Not usually, even at church. We are friends and served in a bishopric together so I generally use his first name, especially in friendly chats in the hallway.
    But you somehow think it's weird that the church promote members using the name Bishop vs calling them John or whatever?
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    But you somehow think it's weird that the church promote members using the name Bishop vs calling them John or whatever?
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    You don't call your bishop "Bishop"?
    I can't. Our Bishop is a really good friend of mine and was recently called. For the life of me, it is bizarre to call him by anything other than his first name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanihonjin View Post
    I can't. Our Bishop is a really good friend of mine and was recently called. For the life of me, it is bizarre to call him by anything other than his first name.
    When we had a new Bishop called a while back who was one of my friends, it seemed a little weird at first to me too. I was called to be one of his counselors. I went out of my way to refer to him as Bishop in every setting that it wasn't just us one on one - and even sometimes in those settings depending on what we were talking about and whether or not it involved him being Bishop. Partly just to respect the office, but also to remind myself that he carried a certain mantle and often was acting in a role other than being my friend.

    It was also interesting to me to see his approach. He wouldn't go to the Bishop's office without wearing a shirt and tie. He once told me "it isn't about me - I'm just trying to respect the calling and what it represents. When I'm in that office, I've got to change my mindset and remember who I represent. And the uniform helps me do that."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    The stake president in the ward I visited this weekend spent a good five minutes telling the EQ that the brethren are emphasizing the use of “bishop” and “president” when addressing people at church in those respective callings. Utah wards, smh.
    In my ward, they're encouraging everyone to address all three of the elder's quorum presidency with "President". Kinda tough calling a 27 year old EQ second counselor "President Olsen".

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay santos View Post
    In my ward, they're encouraging everyone to address all three of the elder's quorum presidency with "President". Kinda tough calling a 27 year old EQ second counselor "President Olsen".
    That's weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wapiti View Post
    That's weird.
    That is weird. It’s also weird to call the 12 year old deacons quorum president “President” as well as the YW class presidents when you are an older male that has nothing to do with those groups but I guess I should comply since some stake president said the brethren are pushing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    That is weird. It’s also weird to call the 12 year old deacons quorum president “President” as well as the YW class presidents when you are an older male that has nothing to do with those groups but I guess I should comply since some stake president said the brethren are pushing it.
    And because it doesn't hurt you to show these younger kids that it is important to honor their callings.
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    That is weird. It’s also weird to call the 12 year old deacons quorum president “President” as well as the YW class presidents when you are an older male that has nothing to do with those groups but I guess I should comply since some stake president said the brethren are pushing it.
    Why is that weird?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wapiti View Post
    Why is that weird?
    I think the whole title thing is weird. Brother, sister, President, etc. I don't call the CFO of my company, Chief, or the President and CEO, President. I just prefer to be called by name and feel odd calling others by anything but their name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanihonjin View Post
    I think the whole title thing is weird. Brother, sister, President, etc. I don't call the CFO of my company, Chief, or the President and CEO, President. I just prefer to be called by name and feel odd calling others by anything but their name.
    Calling by title is a perfectly normal thing in both government and religion. President, Senator, Governor, Speaker, etc. Pastor, Bishop, Father, Mother, Elder, etc. Not weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wapiti View Post
    Calling by title is a perfectly normal thing in both government and religion. President, Senator, Governor, Speaker, etc. Pastor, Bishop, Father, Mother, Elder, etc. Not weird.
    Okay, Brother wapiti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanihonjin View Post
    I think the whole title thing is weird. Brother, sister, President, etc. I don't call the CFO of my company, Chief, or the President and CEO, President. I just prefer to be called by name and feel odd calling others by anything but their name.
    I like titles because then I don’t need to remember first names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    I like titles because then I don’t need to remember first names.
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