The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[The_Douger]

The "have to be a champion of a conference before you are champion of the country" is a good one. Keep preaching Brother Dantonio.

That's why Alabama shouldn't have been allowed to play LSU for the national title after LSU beat them a few years ago.

[TripletDaddy]

Financial Winners from Conference Realignment

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...gin-take-shape

Yet the Utah athletic department hasn't yet joined the ranks of the about two-dozen schools that are self-sustaining -- at least on paper. Utah relies on about $10 million from student fees and university support to break even, and that's something Hill doesn't see changing in the near future.
It borrowed an additional $7 million from the university and issued bonds to borrow $16 million to help support its transition to the Pac-12.

That means to be in a power conference you have to look and act like you belong, and can compete, in a power conference. At Utah, that meant increasing the investment in facilities, academic advisers, strength trainers and other trappings of a big-time athletic program. It meant turning a planned $16 million football facility into a $32 million football stadium and relying on donations and loans to build a $25 million basketball arena.

What are the references to the football and basketball venues? Are the Utes building something new?

[Donuthole]

Financial Winners from Conference Realignment

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...gin-take-shape





What are the references to the football and basketball venues? Are the Utes building something new?

Matching door handles don't come cheap!

[Omaha 680]

Financial Winners from Conference Realignment

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...gin-take-shape





What are the references to the football and basketball venues? Are the Utes building something new?

32 million would build a pretty crappy football stadium.

[Blueintheface]

What are the references to the football and basketball venues? Are the Utes building something new?

Maybe a new door handle to the Arena?

Oops, low hanging fruit I guess.

[Crockett]

I could be mistaken, but as I understand it there is a bit of a shell game going on at many (all?) universities when they say they are operating at a loss. Athletic Departments must "reimburse" the University for the full cost of all athletic scholarships. The result is that universities get an infusion of cash money while athletic departments then say "we are operating at a loss" (but not really) so they can justify their donation requests and high ticket prices.

[jay santos]

I could be mistaken, but as I understand it there is a bit of a shell game going on at many (all?) universities when they say they are operating at a loss. Athletic Departments must "reimburse" the University for the full cost of all athletic scholarships. The result is that universities get an infusion of cash money while athletic departments then say "we are operating at a loss" (but not really) so they can justify their donation requests and high ticket prices.

Seems right to me. Expense matching revenue and all.

That article is interesting insight into the U's program and mentality. Hill's got some balls to start spending like he has a Pac 10 budget before he actually has it, and good support from the President and other benefactors in order to pull it off. His story line about how he was required to spend money to be a Pac 10 school is BS, but it appears he got the important people to buy into it. And wow, an increase of budget from $4M to $23M just from the conference. I bet they get another $10M from other revenue sources from the move. I think our total budget is $30M, and that's up from MWC days.

[TripletDaddy]

byu doesnt have some of the same looming cap ex projects that Utah has. BYU already has a modern indoor football practice facility, a large football stadium, the most attended womens soccer stadium in the country, a modern baseball/softball complex, etc. Utah had or has to build or update many of these things. I think the one thing BYU allegedly needs is the basketball practice facility.

[SCcoug]

Seems right to me. Expense matching revenue and all.

That article is interesting insight into the U's program and mentality. Hill's got some balls to start spending like he has a Pac 10 budget before he actually has it, and good support from the President and other benefactors in order to pull it off. His story line about how he was required to spend money to be a Pac 10 school is BS, but it appears he got the important people to buy into it. And wow, an increase of budget from $4M to $23M just from the conference. I bet they get another $10M from other revenue sources from the move. I think our total budget is $30M, and that's up from MWC days.

Looks like we're at $54M revenue.

source

[SCcoug]

Looks like we're at $54M revenue.

source

The same source says Utah's revenue is $52M

[jay santos]

[QUOTE=SCcoug;1134686]Looks like we're at $54M revenue.



Wow, that's a huge change. I couldn't click on the link, though. Can you repost?

[jay santos]

[QUOTE=jay santos;1134694]

Looks like we're at $54M revenue.



Wow, that's a huge change. I couldn't click on the link, though. Can you repost?

I'm interested. We're a private university, so our numbers are not public, and you only get anything on this when Holmoe offers it up in a media interview or something.

[SCcoug]

[QUOTE=jay santos;1134694]

Looks like we're at $54M revenue.



Wow, that's a huge change. I couldn't click on the link, though. Can you repost?

You can do a search from here.

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx

[kccougar]

The Utah quote was referencing their new basketball practice facility.

[jay santos]

[QUOTE=SCcoug;1134699]

You can do a search from here.

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx

I wonder what the not allocated expense/revenue of about $16M is. Interesting numbers.