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LDS Women: 58% Admit Premarital Sex
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Originally posted by jay santos View Post1. You pretending that no Mormons would be bothered by this is one evidence.
2. There was a post on CB about this where many seemed to be upset. Was it deleted or am I not able to find it again?
3. Some here are doing everything possible to dismiss the statistics or look for ways to explain it away.
4. I haven't read the comments at the Trib site, but I bet you dollars to donuts, a lot of active LDS are up in arms over the article.
5. I live and work in a community that is 95% LDS. I'm pretty sure I have a good handle on LDS culture, and I promise people would be upset by a study like this.
6. I've heard references to this same study before. The rumor I heard was that the brethren were very concerned about this study and attributed it to a heavy focus on missionary prep for YM without a similar focus for YW and that is the time they started putting major focus on YW Excellence program.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by creekster View Postwho, exactly, is claiming they are bothered here?
I think it would be well if in the future studies referred to "active LDS". Those that get bothered wouldn't be so bothered and also it might help them not to point to others who aren't so active and say, "you are embarassing the church".
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Originally posted by creekster View PostWhere did I say that? And what do you mean bothered by it? Bothered in the sense that the number is high? Sure, I can see that being true. Bothered by the fact that it somehow suggests that members of the churhc are inherently hypocritical or that the church is untrue? I dont see that at all. So what do you mean? You drop in and say 'LDS are bothered'" by this. What 'bother' are you talking about then?
Can't help you. I never read CB.
Who si doing that? Pointing out the data is 20 years old and asking about definitions is being dismissive?
Up in arms? meaning what? I still cant even figure out why it was re-printed. you could be right, i suppose. Maybe you shoudl look and see.
I go to a ward every week and I have a good handle on our culture and I promise htat no one would be too worked up about it except as to seeing if we could do better with our youth.
Is this what you mean by being upset about it? that seems like a perfectly rational reaction to me. If you believe chastity is a core value of the religion (and apparently you might not) then this study would cause you to examine what you could do to more effectiovely instill that value.
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Originally posted by jay santos View PostPeace, bro. I think you're betraying yourself with the energy level you have about the issue. The average LDS would definitely be bothered by this article. Bothered that our assumption that our behavior is much better than average might not be true, and the various ramifications if we have to tweak that assumption.
At your suggestion I went and looked at the comments. Nothing too interesting, to be hoinest, but there was one from the SLTrib saying this:
This story is from 1991 and was republished to the site because it relates to an upcoming story that will run in the next few days. They will eventually be linked together.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by jay santos View PostPeace, bro. I think you're betraying yourself with the energy level you have about the issue. The average LDS would definitely be bothered by this article. Bothered that our assumption that our behavior is much better than average might not be true, and the various ramifications if we have to tweak that assumption.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by falafel View PostI think Creekster is much more "bothered" by the delivery than the message itself. At least that's what bothered me initially.
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