Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski
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John Dehlin is thinking about bringing Mormon Stories back
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Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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Originally posted by myboynoah View PostThat's a slippery slope. I'm sure there must some cases in which you would restrict that principle."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostI am with Jay on this one. John Dehlin is a horrible human being, but I don't like this legislation. If you don't like being recorded, don't say anything you aren't willing to own.
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Originally posted by jay santos View PostI'm not advocating a position on the bill. mpfunk says it's a good bill. I don't understand the in's and out's here. But what I think is that the very narrow application of someone recording a bishop's interview should not be a large factor in both proposing and opposing the bill. I'm disappointed in both sides, if what we are hearing about the LDS church advocating this bill is true."Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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I, for example, don't let students tape my classes. Why? Because it makes other students self-conscious to know that they're being record, and there are already enough affective filters against participation in a language classroom, I don't need someone's recorder adding to it. If they tell me, "I'll hide it" I still tell them "no" because all it takes is one person finding out they've been recorded for it to cause the whole class to know and then everyone to shut down.
SC is a one-party consent state. If they were to record me against my will, I can't really do anything, but, could I not sue them for making a surreptitious copy of my copyrighted lecture?"Yeah, but never trust a Ph.D who has an MBA as well. The PhD symbolizes intelligence and discipline. The MBA symbolizes lust for power." -- Katy Lied
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostHelp me understand the cases where that principle does not apply that aren't already covered by privacy laws.Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.
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Originally posted by Topper View PostApart from what the LDS Church's motivation may be, there are public policy reasons why an "all parties' consent" law is reasonable. As noted above 12 other states have "all parties' consent" laws, two of them are vastly different, California and Nevada. Recording somebody surreptitiously has a dirty feel to it, so requiring all parties' consent seems like a better situation that allowing one party to record, perhaps entrap or encourage a compromising statement doesn't offend me."They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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Originally posted by DrumNFeather View PostIf one wanted to be cynical, they might say that John is more concerned about the recordings of church courts that he, Runells and others did without consent...if one wanted to be cynical.
I agree with ole greg that the surreptitiously recording person should have the burden rather the recorded person. It just smells."Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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Originally posted by DrumNFeather View PostIf one wanted to be cynical, they might say that John is more concerned about the recordings of church courts that he, Runells and others did without consent...if one wanted to be cynical.
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Originally posted by Shaka View PostOh boy, a friend I've been trying to help with her faith crisis is headed of to a Dehllin retreat in St. George. I keep telling her he wants to make cash off her faith crisis but she will not listen."Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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Originally posted by Shaka View PostI've told her something similar. She will not listen."They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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Originally posted by Shaka View PostOh boy, a friend I've been trying to help with her faith crisis is headed of to a Dehllin retreat in St. George. I keep telling her he wants to make cash off her faith crisis but she will not listen.Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.
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Originally posted by DrumNFeather View PostI've got a similar situation going on with a guy in my ward. He's not going to retreats or anything, but he keeps giving me all of the bona fides that these folks tout. "HE WAS AN RM AND AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE CHURCH...HELD CALLINGS TOO!""Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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