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    Lost in all in this revenge drama was the fact that Tiger sucked again.

    He had better hope EA renews his video game deal next year because it seems that the endorsement revenue is going to start drying up.
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    Adam Scott is on my dream golf team. I get $10 from everyone for his win. Fowler is also on my dream team and by finishing in the top 5, I get $5 from everyone for that.

    For every guy on your team who doesn't have a top 5 finish at least once during the year, you owe everyone $25. 6 weeks ago not one of my guys had finished in the top 5. Now I have two have done it once and two that have done it twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    His caddy was his best friend since 7th grade. He's been on Tiger's bag before a few times, but he's not really a caddy and won't be Tiger's caddy long term. Tiger has said he's seeking another caddy before this tournament ever started.

    Frankly, I think Steve Williams' greatest asset to Tiger was crowd control. He could let Tiger be in his zone and take care of the peripheral stuff. I think his value in helping Tiger with yardages and reading putts is overstated. However, I think Steve's ability to help someone of lesser ability and talent like Adam Scott can be immeasurable.
    I don't think talent or ability has ever been Adam Scott's problem. He's been a bit of a head case more than anything, though he possesses all the physical tools needed to be a dominant golfer. It seemed like it was going to happen back in 2004 when he won TPC, and he stayed in or around the top 10 for the next while, but he never seemed able to get over the hump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    I don't think talent or ability has ever been Adam Scott's problem. He's been a bit of a head case more than anything, though he possesses all the physical tools needed to be a dominant golfer. It seemed like it was going to happen back in 2004 when he won TPC, and he stayed in or around the top 10 for the next while, but he never seemed able to get over the hump.
    I agree with this. Scott has always had a great game, but never had the mental toughness to keep it together. Williams will be able to allow him to focus on playing golf and not get caught up in worrying about anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    Lost in all in this revenge drama was the fact that Tiger sucked again.

    He had better hope EA renews his video game deal next year because it seems that the endorsement revenue is going to start drying up.
    lol. That I could suck as bad as Tiger does right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    I don't think talent or ability has ever been Adam Scott's problem. He's been a bit of a head case more than anything, though he possesses all the physical tools needed to be a dominant golfer. It seemed like it was going to happen back in 2004 when he won TPC, and he stayed in or around the top 10 for the next while, but he never seemed able to get over the hump.
    Comparatively speaking, Scott can't hold Tiger's jock in terms of talent or ability. Also, Scott uses a long-putter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    Comparatively speaking, Scott can't hold Tiger's jock in terms of talent or ability. Also, Scott uses a long-putter.
    Is he compensating?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    Comparatively speaking, Scott can't hold Tiger's jock in terms of talent or ability. Also, Scott uses a long-putter.
    Like anyone could know that, Napoleon. What, exactly, makes Tiger so much more talented and/or able than Scott? Break that down for me, will you?

    Personally, I think you are equating past-success with talent and ability. Tiger has never been the best ball striker on tour. He has never been the most accurate driver on tour. When Tiger was winning when he had the best short game and was the most driven. His drive is gone now, and, coincidentally, so is his short game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    Like anyone could know that, Napoleon. What, exactly, makes Tiger so much more talented and/or able than Scott? Break that down for me, will you?

    Personally, I think you are equating past-success with talent and ability. Tiger has never been the best ball striker on tour. He has never been the most accurate driver on tour. When Tiger was winning when he had the best short game and was the most driven. His drive is gone now, and, coincidentally, so is his short game.
    So you think that Scott is equally talented to Tiger?

    Tiger was a phenom, prodigy from when he was 3 years old. I remember watching him on That's Incredible when I was a little kid. Tiger's amateur success is why I think he's far more talented than Scott. He dominated the amateur ranks from the time he was 8 until he left Stanford to go pro. He did that on pure talent and natural ability honed under his dad's tutelage long before guys like Butch, Hank, or Stevie came along.

    I am not saying Adam Scott isn't a talented guy. But do you really believe he's as talented as Tiger?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    Like anyone could know that, Napoleon. What, exactly, makes Tiger so much more talented and/or able than Scott? Break that down for me, will you?

    Personally, I think you are equating past-success with talent and ability. Tiger has never been the best ball striker on tour. He has never been the most accurate driver on tour. When Tiger was winning when he had the best short game and was the most driven. His drive is gone now, and, coincidentally, so is his short game.
    His Driver has always been erratic but his ball striking and creativity (or shot making as some call it) has always been near the time. Also like you said his short game was the best. (With Phil being a close 2nd).

    He was terrible off the tee the last 4 days, but his iron play was stellar, he just struggled making putts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    His Driver has always been erratic but his ball striking and creativity (or shot making as some call it) has always been near the time. Also like you said his short game was the best. (With Phil being a close 2nd).

    He was terrible off the tee the last 4 days, but his iron play was stellar, he just struggled making putts.
    Maybe he should try Adam Scott's long putter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
    lol. That I could suck as bad as Tiger does right now.
    Sounds like you just might

    Tiger Woods has shot his worst round ever at the PGA Championship.

    After playing the first five holes Thursday at 3 under, Woods fell apart on his way to a 7-over 77. He knocked two balls in the water, spent much of his day in the sand and wound up with three double bogeys and five bogeys.

    Woods had never shot worse than 75 at the PGA until his miserable round at Atlanta Athletic Club. The only other time he posted a higher score in a major was that 81 in the third round of the British Open, played in awful conditions at Muirfield.
    http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/...t-round-081111

    There needs be opposition in all things, so I will go ahead and call it, probably against popular opinion: Tiger is done. No mas majors for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    There needs be opposition in all things, so I will go ahead and call it, probably against popular opinion: Tiger is done. No mas majors for him.
    Not as long as Steve Williams is out there performing at a high level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    Sounds like you just might



    http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/...t-round-081111

    There needs be opposition in all things, so I will go ahead and call it, probably against popular opinion: Tiger is done. No mas majors for him.
    I don't think that Tiger will ever win with the frequency he did before, but I won't say he'll never win another major. After all, he's finished 4th in the last two Masters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    So you think that Scott is equally talented to Tiger.
    I missed this until now. Conveniently, Tiger lays an egg today. But I would have posted the same thing last week. Tiger won because of his talent, but also because of the drive and golf infrastructure around him. As soon as that went kaput, so did his game.

    There are plenty of golfers with the physical talent of Tiger. In fact, I think Phil might be more talented than Tiger. But save Jack, no golfer has had the combination of physical talent and the mental toughness that Tiger had from 97-08. I'm not saying Tiger isn't one of the most talented golfers ever. I'm saying there are plenty of golfers just as talented, if not moreso, that never realize the success Tiger has. It's not for their lack of talent.

    Kobe and MJ are two of the greatest ever, not just becasue of their talent, but because of their work ethic, mental toughness, and their refusal to just settle for making a decent living playing basketball. Both of them want to go down as the GOAT, and neither ever stopped working towards it. LeBron is more talented than either, but he'll probably never reach GOAT discussion, as he has made it clear that he's perfectly content to make $$$ and live in South Beach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    I don't think that Tiger will ever win with the frequency he did before, but I won't say he'll never win another major. After all, he's finished 4th in the last two Masters.
    I think that's where his remaining majors, if any, will come from. He knows that course as well as anyone ever has, and I think he'll contend there just about every year as long as he's reasonably healthy.
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    Ugh. Tiger was cheating on his beuatiful with and the mother of his kids with this disgusting person:

    Tiger Woods’ alpha mistress, Rachel Uchitel, said the 9/11 death of her former fiance, investment banker James Andrew O’Grady, was meant to be. “I believe Andy was meant to die because he was too good,” she tells Page Six Magazine, in The Post on Thursday. “I’m almost happy it ended the way it did because I’ve learned so many lessons from him. It would have been tragic if we got into fights and then divorced.” Had O’Grady lived, Uchitel — who went on to reportedly make $500,000 a year working as a VIP hostess at Tao Las Vegas and at New York’s The Griffin, where she met Woods — believes her life would have been much different. “I would be a fat housewife with three kids in Sands Point, LI,” she tells the magazine. The toned and tanned Uchitel recently sold her Park Avenue apartment and plans to move to San Francisco with her boyfriend, Matt Hahn. The two are talking about children. “I never wanted them … but I know how much I love my dogs, and I think I’d make a good mother to my own kids.”

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    Tiger's back in the endorsement game. Two months after Tag dropped him, he signs a deal with Rolex rumored to be for at least 5 years.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/...0511?gt1=39002
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Tiger's back in the endorsement game. Two months after Tag dropped him, he signs a deal with Rolex rumored to be for at least 5 years.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/...0511?gt1=39002
    His game isn't back, it looks like he will miss the cut this week. Tiger can't putt anymore.

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    Heckler throws wiener at Tiger

    http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/...rnament-100911

    The 31-year-old man stepped from the crowd on the seventh green at CordeValle Golf Club and called out, "Tiger, Tiger," before launching the hot dog in the direction of the former world No. 1.

    The hot dog didn't come near Woods, who nonetheless backed away from his putt.

    "When I looked up it was already in the air," Woods said. "The bun was kind of disintegrating there."

    ****

    The man, who was not identified, was later arrested for disturbing the peace. A sheriff's deputy said the man denied throwing the hot dog at Woods, saying it fell out of his hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RC Vikings View Post
    His game isn't back, it looks like he will miss the cut this week. Tiger can't putt anymore.
    He bounced back shooting 3 straight rounds under par. If not for that atrocious putting performance on Thursday he probably ends up at -10 and finishes close to the top 10. But -7 lands him in 30th place. Respectable for his first tourney back. I watched the Saturday and Sunday rounds and his ball striking is on point. But his putter still has a ways to go.
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    Interested in a Tiger Woods straw poll now. Not necessarily because of today's performance, mind you....but today made me think about the issue, in general.

    Are you still a big fan of Tiger or are you growing more indifferent as more time passes with no majors? Are you rooting against him? Has your enthusiasm changed at all?

    I don't know if this will prove to be premature, but I get the feeling that Tiger is done. The Tiger era is over. I just don't see him bouncing back to form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    Interested in a Tiger Woods straw poll now. Not necessarily because of today's performance, mind you....but today made me think about the issue, in general.

    Are you still a big fan of Tiger or are you growing more indifferent as more time passes with no majors? Are you rooting against him? Has your enthusiasm changed at all?

    I don't know if this will prove to be premature, but I get the feeling that Tiger is done. The Tiger era is over. I just don't see him bouncing back to form.
    I am not sure if he will ever get back to where he was. But I think he has a few more majors in him. He played very well at the Australian Open last week and lead after the first two rounds. The third round his ball striking was on point but he never got a feel for how firm the greens were until late in the round and struggled a bit. He bounced back on Sunday to finish in 3rd place 2 shots back.

    The round last night (or thursday Australian time) does not tell us much. It was an alternate shot format with Steve Stricker. Stricker is one of the shortest players on tour. The greens are very firm with no fringe. Adam Scott and KJ Choi were hitting 9 irons in to greens and due to Strickers length Tiger was hitting a 5 or 6 iron. He had no spin on the ball and when he would try to be aggressive his ball would land in the right spot but roll through the green.

    I don't think he played great by any means he was probably slightly above average but Stricker played very poor. On top of that Scott and Choi had the 2nd lowest round of the day (behind Watson and Simpson). Tiger and Stricker were +3 and in all the other matches Even or +1 was in the mix. They would not have lost as bad had they played anyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    I am not sure if he will ever get back to where he was. But I think he has a few more majors in him. He played very well at the Australian Open last week and lead after the first two rounds. The third round his ball striking was on point but he never got a feel for how firm the greens were until late in the round and struggled a bit. He bounced back on Sunday to finish in 3rd place 2 shots back.

    The round last night (or thursday Australian time) does not tell us much. It was an alternate shot format with Steve Stricker. Stricker is one of the shortest players on tour. The greens are very firm with no fringe. Adam Scott and KJ Choi were hitting 9 irons in to greens and due to Strickers length Tiger was hitting a 5 or 6 iron. He had no spin on the ball and when he would try to be aggressive his ball would land in the right spot but roll through the green.

    I don't think he played great by any means he was probably slightly above average but Stricker played very poor. On top of that Scott and Choi had the 2nd lowest round of the day (behind Watson and Simpson). Tiger and Stricker were +3 and in all the other matches Even or +1 was in the mix. They would not have lost as bad had they played anyone else.
    I agree with this. I think that for the next few years Tiger has a good chance of being Phil Mickelson. He'll cause a lot of excitement whenever he makes a run, will often self-destruct, but will play well enough to win a couple of majors along the way. I think he won't get to Jack's total, though.

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    I miss Tiger. I hope he comes back. I always thought he would, but looking more and more doubtful the longer he goes without winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay santos View Post
    I miss Tiger. I hope he comes back. I always thought he would, but looking more and more doubtful the longer he goes without winning.
    I agree with missing him and doubting he makes a triumphant return.
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    Tiger played well yesterday he was dialed in for much of the round. The problem was Dustin Johnson was all over the place and picked up his ball on several holes. Tiger it 12 of 15 fairways and was starting to look like the Tiger of old. The fact that they only lost 1 down is a testament to how well Tiger played. For most of the round it was 2 against 1 and Tiger kept them in it.
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    Tiger putted well during the singles matches and was the best player out there. It will be interesting to see if he can carry it into next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RC Vikings View Post
    Tiger putted well during the singles matches and was the best player out there. It will be interesting to see if he can carry it into next year.
    Tee to Green, Tiger was the best player at the Presidents cup. He did not putt well until Sunday. But once he started putting he was by far the best player out there and looked a lot like the Tiger of old.
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    Tiger was -5 today. And he left a couple of strokes out there. I think it may be time to change this thread title to Tiger Resurrected soon.
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