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    Quote Originally Posted by jay santos View Post
    I'd rather dominate the world in golf.
    Being a decent human and dominating in golf are not mutually exclusive propositions. And I don't believe firing his caddy is going to have a great negative effect on Tiger's future golf domination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Being a decent human and dominating in golf are not mutually exclusive propositions. And I don't believe firing his caddy is going to have a great negative effect on Tiger's future golf domination.
    His domination was largely psychological and due in part to the fact that he believed himself invincible. He doesn't believe that anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babs View Post
    His domination was largely psychological and due in part to the fact that he believed himself invincible. He doesn't believe that anymore.
    I have a theory that alpha males and uber achievers are similar this way. At least that's how I've justified all the things I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babs View Post
    His domination was largely psychological and due in part to the fact that he believed himself invincible. He doesn't believe that anymore.
    He's also got bad knees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay santos View Post
    It is if your goal is a temple recommend.

    It's not if your goal is to dominate the world in golf.
    Agreed. Tiger at the top of his game was unbeatable, but he wasn't at the top of his game until Williams was carrying his bag. This move by Tiger tells me that he undervalues what Williams did for him on the golf course.
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    Tiger drops out of the top 20..his lowest ranking in almost 15 years

    http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/...op-20-rankings

    Are people here still rooting for this guy, rooting against him, or simply don't care about him anymore?

    I loved watching him dominate but now I'm not at all bummed about his downfall. I'm definitely not indifferent as I still follow his news.

    Tiger's deal with EA runs out next year, doesn't it? Have they already announced a new deal beyond 2012?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    Tiger drops out of the top 20..his lowest ranking in almost 15 years

    http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/...op-20-rankings

    Are people here still rooting for this guy, rooting against him, or simply don't care about him anymore?

    I loved watching him dominate but now I'm not at all bummed about his downfall. I'm definitely not indifferent as I still follow his news.

    Tiger's deal with EA runs out next year, doesn't it? Have they already announced a new deal beyond 2012?
    I am not a Tiger fan (though I like him more than my wife), but I would like to see him get back in the top 3. At this point, golf is more exciting when Tiger is around.

    I would prefer for him to not break Jack's major record, and I think the chances of him doing it are pretty small right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clark Addison View Post
    I am not a Tiger fan (though I like him more than my wife).
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    The World Golf Rankings are a joke anyway. Look at the #1 guy right now. Luke Donald? Seriously? He's a fine golfer. But he's never won a major. In ten years he's won 10 events and only 3 came on the PGA tour. And he's the #1 player in the world?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    The World Golf Rankings are a joke anyway. Look at the #1 guy right now. Luke Donald? Seriously? He's a fine golfer. But he's never won a major. In ten years he's won 10 events and only 3 came on the PGA tour. And he's the #1 player in the world?
    I was just about to post something like this. Well, I was going to ask what Luke Donald has done and how I might have missed it, but the sentiment is the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    Tiger drops out of the top 20..his lowest ranking in almost 15 years

    http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/...op-20-rankings

    Are people here still rooting for this guy, rooting against him, or simply don't care about him anymore?

    I loved watching him dominate but now I'm not at all bummed about his downfall. I'm definitely not indifferent as I still follow his news.

    Tiger's deal with EA runs out next year, doesn't it? Have they already announced a new deal beyond 2012?
    I'm definitely rooting for him to at least be a serious contender in tournaments. Tournaments for me are infinitely more entertaining when "Tiger vs. the field" is in play on Sundays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottie View Post
    I'm definitely rooting for him to at least be a serious contender in tournaments. Tournaments for me are infinitely more entertaining when "Tiger vs. the field" is in play on Sundays.
    Same.

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    I only caught the back 9 but Tiger looked pretty good today. That 3 wood sliced out of the rough was sweet. And his putter was on point. And if there ever was any doubt, he's still the biggest draw based on gallery and crowd reaction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    I only caught the back 9 but Tiger looked pretty good today. That 3 wood sliced out of the rough was sweet. And his putter was on point. And if there ever was any doubt, he's still the biggest draw based on gallery and crowd reaction.
    Adam Scott gave Tiger a big eff you today when he fired that 62. You know he wanted it bad for Stevie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    I only caught the back 9 but Tiger looked pretty good today. That 3 wood sliced out of the rough was sweet. And his putter was on point. And if there ever was any doubt, he's still the biggest draw based on gallery and crowd reaction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    Adam Scott gave Tiger a big eff you today when he fired that 62. You know he wanted it bad for Stevie.
    Are Adam Scott and Williams pretty close?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    Adam Scott gave Tiger a big eff you today when he fired that 62. You know he wanted it bad for Stevie.
    Yeah. He and Stevie were fist bumping. I like Adam Scott. He's always seemed like someone who was on the cusp about 5 years back but then kind of melded back into the field. He's had a good year this year though. Maybe it's Stevie on his bag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    Yeah. He and Stevie were fist bumping. I like Adam Scott. He's always seemed like someone who was on the cusp about 5 years back but then kind of melded back into the field. He's had a good year this year though. Maybe it's Stevie on his bag.
    Fist bumping because of Tiger? That's hard for me to imagine. He and Tiger would fist bump too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottie View Post
    Fist bumping because of Tiger? That's hard for me to imagine. He and Tiger would fist bump too.
    I know. I was talking about Adam's play. He was on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    I know. I was talking about Adam's play. He was on.
    Scott and Tiger in the final pairing on Sunday would be made-for-tv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    Adam Scott gave Tiger a big eff you today when he fired that 62. You know he wanted it bad for Stevie.
    It would probably be more of an F you to win the PGA, let's see if he is willing to drop that bomb on Tiger.
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    Tiger's post-round interviews: awkward.

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    It makes me laugh when Jim Nantz has to promote CBS shows like Big Brother during golf broadcasts:
    Now just a reminder: Big Brother, things are going crazy as they always are in the Big Brother house and tonight at 8/7 Central you can catch up on all the latest antics.

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    Ha! Steve Williams slamming Tiger saying something like this was the "best week of my life after caddying for 33 years."

    A little bit annoying though that Stevie is talking as if HE just won the tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacCoug View Post
    Ha! Steve Williams slamming Tiger saying something like this was the "best week of my life after caddying for 33 years."

    A little bit annoying though that Stevie is talking as if HE just won the tournament.
    I agree with what you're saying here, but truth is, had Tiger not had Williams on his bag, I don't think Tiger would have been as dominant as he was and Tiger knows it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
    I agree with what you're saying here, but truth is, had Tiger not had Williams on his bag, I don't think Tiger would have been as dominant as he was and Tiger knows it.
    Agreed. Tiger is an idiot for not wanting Steve back and I think it's great that Adam Scott won today with him on the bag.

    The stuff Stevie said that was really weird was the "I've always been a great front-runner" stuff.

    Uh Steve...you do realize you're not the one hitting the ball, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacCoug View Post
    Agreed. Tiger is an idiot for not wanting Steve back and I think it's great that Adam Scott won today with him on the bag.

    The stuff Stevie said that was really weird was the "I've always been a great front-runner" stuff.

    Uh Steve...you do realize you're not the one hitting the ball, right?
    I agree, however, even though the caddie isnt hitting the ball, a good caddie is just as important, in my opinion. Stevie read all of Tigers putts for him, called out yardages, crowd control, etc... He knew Tiger's game just as well as Tiger did. If you notived this week, Tiger read all his own putts, and his caddy was basically just carrying his bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunk Tank View Post
    If you notived this week, Tiger read all his own putts, and his caddy was basically just carrying his bag.
    I watched the Golf Channel coverage before CBS took over and the commentators pointed that out. Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunk Tank View Post
    I agree, however, even though the caddie isnt hitting the ball, a good caddie is just as important, in my opinion. Stevie read all of Tigers putts for him, called out yardages, crowd control, etc... He knew Tiger's game just as well as Tiger did. If you notived this week, Tiger read all his own putts, and his caddy was basically just carrying his bag.
    Yeah, dumping Steve Williams is going to be part of the explanation for why Tiger never gets back to winning majors or why the comeback takes a lot longer to happen than it could have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottie View Post
    I watched the Golf Channel coverage before CBS took over and the commentators pointed that out. Interesting.
    His caddy was his best friend since 7th grade. He's been on Tiger's bag before a few times, but he's not really a caddy and won't be Tiger's caddy long term. Tiger has said he's seeking another caddy before this tournament ever started.

    Frankly, I think Steve Williams' greatest asset to Tiger was crowd control. He could let Tiger be in his zone and take care of the peripheral stuff. I think his value in helping Tiger with yardages and reading putts is overstated. However, I think Steve's ability to help someone of lesser ability and talent like Adam Scott can be immeasurable.
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