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  • #61
    Lost in all in this revenge drama was the fact that Tiger sucked again.

    He had better hope EA renews his video game deal next year because it seems that the endorsement revenue is going to start drying up.
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    • #62
      Adam Scott is on my dream golf team. I get $10 from everyone for his win. Fowler is also on my dream team and by finishing in the top 5, I get $5 from everyone for that.

      For every guy on your team who doesn't have a top 5 finish at least once during the year, you owe everyone $25. 6 weeks ago not one of my guys had finished in the top 5. Now I have two have done it once and two that have done it twice.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Surfah View Post
        His caddy was his best friend since 7th grade. He's been on Tiger's bag before a few times, but he's not really a caddy and won't be Tiger's caddy long term. Tiger has said he's seeking another caddy before this tournament ever started.

        Frankly, I think Steve Williams' greatest asset to Tiger was crowd control. He could let Tiger be in his zone and take care of the peripheral stuff. I think his value in helping Tiger with yardages and reading putts is overstated. However, I think Steve's ability to help someone of lesser ability and talent like Adam Scott can be immeasurable.
        I don't think talent or ability has ever been Adam Scott's problem. He's been a bit of a head case more than anything, though he possesses all the physical tools needed to be a dominant golfer. It seemed like it was going to happen back in 2004 when he won TPC, and he stayed in or around the top 10 for the next while, but he never seemed able to get over the hump.
        Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
          I don't think talent or ability has ever been Adam Scott's problem. He's been a bit of a head case more than anything, though he possesses all the physical tools needed to be a dominant golfer. It seemed like it was going to happen back in 2004 when he won TPC, and he stayed in or around the top 10 for the next while, but he never seemed able to get over the hump.
          I agree with this. Scott has always had a great game, but never had the mental toughness to keep it together. Williams will be able to allow him to focus on playing golf and not get caught up in worrying about anything else.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
            Lost in all in this revenge drama was the fact that Tiger sucked again.

            He had better hope EA renews his video game deal next year because it seems that the endorsement revenue is going to start drying up.
            lol. That I could suck as bad as Tiger does right now.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
              I don't think talent or ability has ever been Adam Scott's problem. He's been a bit of a head case more than anything, though he possesses all the physical tools needed to be a dominant golfer. It seemed like it was going to happen back in 2004 when he won TPC, and he stayed in or around the top 10 for the next while, but he never seemed able to get over the hump.
              Comparatively speaking, Scott can't hold Tiger's jock in terms of talent or ability. Also, Scott uses a long-putter.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                Comparatively speaking, Scott can't hold Tiger's jock in terms of talent or ability. Also, Scott uses a long-putter.
                Is he compensating?
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                  Comparatively speaking, Scott can't hold Tiger's jock in terms of talent or ability. Also, Scott uses a long-putter.
                  Like anyone could know that, Napoleon. What, exactly, makes Tiger so much more talented and/or able than Scott? Break that down for me, will you?

                  Personally, I think you are equating past-success with talent and ability. Tiger has never been the best ball striker on tour. He has never been the most accurate driver on tour. When Tiger was winning when he had the best short game and was the most driven. His drive is gone now, and, coincidentally, so is his short game.
                  Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                  There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                    Like anyone could know that, Napoleon. What, exactly, makes Tiger so much more talented and/or able than Scott? Break that down for me, will you?

                    Personally, I think you are equating past-success with talent and ability. Tiger has never been the best ball striker on tour. He has never been the most accurate driver on tour. When Tiger was winning when he had the best short game and was the most driven. His drive is gone now, and, coincidentally, so is his short game.
                    So you think that Scott is equally talented to Tiger?

                    Tiger was a phenom, prodigy from when he was 3 years old. I remember watching him on That's Incredible when I was a little kid. Tiger's amateur success is why I think he's far more talented than Scott. He dominated the amateur ranks from the time he was 8 until he left Stanford to go pro. He did that on pure talent and natural ability honed under his dad's tutelage long before guys like Butch, Hank, or Stevie came along.

                    I am not saying Adam Scott isn't a talented guy. But do you really believe he's as talented as Tiger?
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                      Like anyone could know that, Napoleon. What, exactly, makes Tiger so much more talented and/or able than Scott? Break that down for me, will you?

                      Personally, I think you are equating past-success with talent and ability. Tiger has never been the best ball striker on tour. He has never been the most accurate driver on tour. When Tiger was winning when he had the best short game and was the most driven. His drive is gone now, and, coincidentally, so is his short game.
                      His Driver has always been erratic but his ball striking and creativity (or shot making as some call it) has always been near the time. Also like you said his short game was the best. (With Phil being a close 2nd).

                      He was terrible off the tee the last 4 days, but his iron play was stellar, he just struggled making putts.
                      *Banned*

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                        His Driver has always been erratic but his ball striking and creativity (or shot making as some call it) has always been near the time. Also like you said his short game was the best. (With Phil being a close 2nd).

                        He was terrible off the tee the last 4 days, but his iron play was stellar, he just struggled making putts.
                        Maybe he should try Adam Scott's long putter.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                          lol. That I could suck as bad as Tiger does right now.
                          Sounds like you just might

                          Tiger Woods has shot his worst round ever at the PGA Championship.

                          After playing the first five holes Thursday at 3 under, Woods fell apart on his way to a 7-over 77. He knocked two balls in the water, spent much of his day in the sand and wound up with three double bogeys and five bogeys.

                          Woods had never shot worse than 75 at the PGA until his miserable round at Atlanta Athletic Club. The only other time he posted a higher score in a major was that 81 in the third round of the British Open, played in awful conditions at Muirfield.
                          http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/...t-round-081111

                          There needs be opposition in all things, so I will go ahead and call it, probably against popular opinion: Tiger is done. No mas majors for him.
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                            There needs be opposition in all things, so I will go ahead and call it, probably against popular opinion: Tiger is done. No mas majors for him.
                            Not as long as Steve Williams is out there performing at a high level.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                              Sounds like you just might



                              http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/...t-round-081111

                              There needs be opposition in all things, so I will go ahead and call it, probably against popular opinion: Tiger is done. No mas majors for him.
                              I don't think that Tiger will ever win with the frequency he did before, but I won't say he'll never win another major. After all, he's finished 4th in the last two Masters.
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                                So you think that Scott is equally talented to Tiger.
                                I missed this until now. Conveniently, Tiger lays an egg today. But I would have posted the same thing last week. Tiger won because of his talent, but also because of the drive and golf infrastructure around him. As soon as that went kaput, so did his game.

                                There are plenty of golfers with the physical talent of Tiger. In fact, I think Phil might be more talented than Tiger. But save Jack, no golfer has had the combination of physical talent and the mental toughness that Tiger had from 97-08. I'm not saying Tiger isn't one of the most talented golfers ever. I'm saying there are plenty of golfers just as talented, if not moreso, that never realize the success Tiger has. It's not for their lack of talent.

                                Kobe and MJ are two of the greatest ever, not just becasue of their talent, but because of their work ethic, mental toughness, and their refusal to just settle for making a decent living playing basketball. Both of them want to go down as the GOAT, and neither ever stopped working towards it. LeBron is more talented than either, but he'll probably never reach GOAT discussion, as he has made it clear that he's perfectly content to make $$$ and live in South Beach.
                                Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                                There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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