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  • #16
    Lots of advantages over air travel. Cheaper, less energy, faster, safer, greater capacity. This could be a game changer.

    I am on the hyperloop train. All aboooooooooard!
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    • #17
      Originally posted by SCcoug View Post
      The tube with low pressure is the whole point.
      Guess I should read the article

      I would love to commute in one of those. But I can't imagine doing 700mph over rough terrain. The tube would be relatively flat but any turn or bump at that speed would send me puking.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        I am on the hyperloop train. All aboooooooooard!
        Ever since I jumped off the Big 12 train I've been looking for another one to jump on
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Moliere View Post
          Guess I should read the article

          I would love to commute in one of those. But I can't imagine doing 700mph over rough terrain. The tube would be relatively flat but any turn or bump at that speed would send me puking.
          There you go again, commenting on the actual impact of hypothetical technology.
          Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Moliere View Post
            Guess I should read the article

            I would love to commute in one of those. But I can't imagine doing 700mph over rough terrain. The tube would be relatively flat but any turn or bump at that speed would send me puking.
            When you hit an air pocket in a plane does it send you puking?
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Commando View Post
              When you hit an air pocket in a plane does it send you puking?
              Yes, it has.
              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                Lots of advantages over air travel. Cheaper, less energy, faster, safer, greater capacity. This could be a game changer.

                I am on the hyperloop train. All aboooooooooard!
                Sure, but this assumes that flight technology will remain static. In the time it takes to overcome the infrastructure obstacles for hyperloop, there could very well be breakthroughs that make supersonic passenger travel more efficient and possible over populated areas. Commando talked about firing pod after pod in sequence. Ideally that is what you want but in practice each pod would probably occupy a "block" on the system much like trains do in order to ensure safety. The faster the speed, the bigger the block needs to be. And if you are planning on making stops on your cross country journey to pick up passengers, your travel time would increase well above air travel. It only takes a couple stops to wreck your average speed. To overcome that, you'd need even more tubes so that there could be dedicated tubes running between each destination, theoretically as many tubes as there are air travel routes. The infrastructure costs would be absolutely staggering. And this doesn't even begin to address how you secure all those thousands of miles of tubes against vandalism, sabotage, or terrorism. If someone wrecks a steel running rail on a railroad, you send out a bunch of knuckleheads from your track crew and they can restore service in a couple hours. I imagine a damaged hyperloop tube would be a lot harder to repair.

                I'm not saying it will never happen. I'm just saying there are operational and capital challenges that are gigantic in my mind and won't be overcome in the near future. Like I said, when looking at what will put me out of a job I'm much more interested in powerful engineering analysis programs which will eliminate a lot of what I do day to day. Or the proliferation of the autonomous vehicles, which will make many of the transit systems I work for economically obsolete.

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                • #23
                  Musk claims he has "approval" for an NYC to DC hyperloop. No word on what approval actually means.

                  Approval would have to come from dozens of agencies and governments for a project like this. Setting aside the regulatory hurdles, I don't think even Musk can bankroll this. It was crazy enough when it was proposed as an aerial guideway. Now he is saying it will all be underground. If someone estimated this at $100 Billion, I would say that is way too low.

                  New York to Washington in 29 minutes? Elon Musk says it's possible and he has the government's approval to do it (though it's anyone's guess which government or how long it'd take to build).

                  "Just received verbal govt approval for The Boring Company to build an underground NY-Phil-Balt-DC Hyperloop. NY-DC in 29 mins," the billionaire inventor and entrepreneur tweeted Thursday afternoon.
                  "City center to city center in each case, with up to a dozen or more entry/exit elevators in each city," he said in another tweet. The Boring Company is Musk's tunneling venture.

                  It was not clear which government had given him the approval -- and Musk did not answer multiple tweets from people around the world asking him the same.
                  http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...435629673.html

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                    Musk claims he has "approval" for an NYC to DC hyperloop. No word on what approval actually means.

                    Approval would have to come from dozens of agencies and governments for a project like this. Setting aside the regulatory hurdles, I don't think even Musk can bankroll this. It was crazy enough when it was proposed as an aerial guideway. Now he is saying it will all be underground. If someone estimated this at $100 Billion, I would say that is way too low.

                    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...435629673.html
                    I was thinking the same thing.

                    His company is also working on some kind of revolutionary tunnel boring machine, but wow, the technical and energy hurdles are huge for tunneling.
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                    • #25
                      verbal approval. hilarious.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by falafel View Post
                        The Cubs win the world series! I know its still 6 years or so away, but its nice to have something to look forward to. And now I know to put some money on the cubbies. I'll have my own crappy casino empire in no time.
                        How much $$ did you rake in?
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                          I was thinking the same thing.

                          His company is also working on some kind of revolutionary tunnel boring machine, but wow, the technical and energy hurdles are huge for tunneling.
                          Yeah, I'll believe it when Musk can make cars that keeps dumbass Tesla Model S owners from crashing into things first...

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                          • #28
                            The Boring Company.




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                            • #29
                              Guys, the verbal approval came from the White House. So this thing is as good as built. Might even finish it before the border wall. Mark it down.

                              Elon Musk's "verbal government approval" tweet, which suggested he'd been given the OK to build an underground tunnel to house a futuristic high-speed transportation system from New York to Washington DC, caused more than few questions and eyerolls. It sparked a hunt for exactly which agency was responsible.

                              It turns out it came from the White House.

                              A White House spokesman confirmed to Bloomberg that the administration has had “promising conversations to date.” The spokesman didn't provide details, only saying the administration is “committed to transformative infrastructure projects, and believe our greatest solutions have often come from the ingenuity and drive of the private sector.”
                              http://fortune.com/2017/07/20/white-...usk-hyperloop/

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                              • #30
                                I can't think of a less credible verbal approval, sadly enough.
                                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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