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  • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    So art depicting a US president trampling the constitution is not propaganda? Because you agree with the message? Uh ... OK.
    Are you saying that it cannot reasonably be argued that Obama's record was alarming, because it was alarming not just to McNaugton but to writers for Forbes and The Atlantic respectively.

    Uh ... OK

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    • Originally posted by tooblue View Post
      Are you saying that it cannot reasonably be argued that Obama's record was alarming, because it was alarming not just to McNaugton but to writers for Forbes and The Atlantic respectively.

      Uh ... OK

      I am saying that just because you agree with something (or googled a couple of articles that confirm your bias), doesn't mean it is not propaganda.
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      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        I am saying that just because you agree with something (or googled a couple of articles that confirm your bias), doesn't mean it is not propaganda.
        You have conflated my consideration for his artwork with my agreement of the narrative content of his work. I have not made a statement about whether or not I agree with him. I have pointed out that his past works could arguably be interpreted as offering a valid critique of President Obama and his administration's policies. I backed up that interpretation by linking to articles that point out that Obama's constitutional record was considered alarming, not just to McNauton, but to many others.

        Per my subjective opinion on the subject of art, in this case the paintings of McNaughton, I do not find his earlier works purposefully misleading, therefore I do not consider them propaganda. In contrast, in my opinion, his current work has crossed a line and they now strike me as purposeful in their intent to mislead, and thus I consider him a propagandist.
        Last edited by tooblue; 07-31-2018, 01:24 PM.

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        • Originally posted by tooblue View Post
          Not in the sense that it is overtly misleading, because it is not. Obama operated under a mandate, which one can reasonably argue, aimed to fundamentally change the constitution.
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          • Originally posted by Commando View Post



            Obama says "America," which McNaugton equates with "the Constitution" in his painting ... ain't that far of a leap to make. There was a lot of hysteria born of that particular Obama speech.
            Last edited by tooblue; 07-31-2018, 04:43 PM.

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            • Interesting thread comparing Mcnaughton’s propaganda work to North Korean art:

              "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
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              • Originally posted by tooblue View Post


                Obama says "America," which McNaugton equates with "the Constitution" in his painting ... ain't that far of a leap to make. There was a lot of hysteria born of that particular Obama speech.
                Oh brother. President Obama was all talk, no walk. He fundamentally transformed nothing.
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                • Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
                  Oh brother. President Obama was all talk, no walk. He fundamentally transformed nothing.
                  Walter, you can be so mean!

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                  • I don't really know how to introduce this

                    Originally posted by tooblue View Post
                    For those who have read his detailed descriptions, is that Ben Carson depicted at the front, starboard side of the boat? Why is he paddling backwards, against all the other paddlers? McNaughton's craft is suffering under the weight of his untenable ideology.
                    Originally posted by Commando View Post


                    where is Stephen Miller in all of this??
                    Miller got off as soon as Carson refused to move to the back of the boat. A man must have his standards.


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                    Last edited by Dwight Schr-ute; 07-31-2018, 07:22 PM.
                    I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.

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                      I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.

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                        • Originally posted by Dwight Schr-ute View Post



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                          That's awesome.

                          I love the look on Drumpf's face - as if he's been fooled into coming through that door to meet his base.
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                          • That's hilarious.
                            "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                            "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                            - SeattleUte

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                            • I don't really know how to introduce this





                              Edit. I guess this isn’t as fresh as I thought. He’s teased this before.
                              Last edited by Dwight Schr-ute; 08-12-2018, 06:15 PM.
                              I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.

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                              • McNaughton? Or Naught?

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                                "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                                "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                                - SeattleUte

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