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  1. From the Foyer.

    From the Foyer.
  2. Or First People.

    Or First People.
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    He wasn't criticizing the church's negotiating...

    He wasn't criticizing the church's negotiating stance, he was criticising the church's stated position.
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    Isn't what you support/propose to happen by...

    Isn't what you support/propose to happen by definition (semantics!) 100% what you want?
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    The oil market has changed so much it almost...

    The oil market has changed so much it almost makes me wonder if Bolton is agitating for a dispute to shut down the Strait of Hormuz in order to increase prices to benefit American oil producers.
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    Only when I think it matters or I have time to...

    Only when I think it matters or I have time to spare.
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    Ok. Your post was perfectly fine and I do not...

    Ok. Your post was perfectly fine and I do not mean to quibble or disagree with you at all. Good job.
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    Claiming that something is "just semantics" is an...

    Claiming that something is "just semantics" is an easy and often lazy way for people to ignore distinctions in definitions that can be meaningful and add precision to discussions. Saying that the...
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    Agreed, except it is not semantics. Nonetheless,...

    Agreed, except it is not semantics. Nonetheless, I think UT is generally correct and I have long thought the church should get out of the marrying business, a least in the eyes of the state.
  10. Thread: ATOC 2019

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    Interesting stage yesterday due to the decision...

    Interesting stage yesterday due to the decision to give TJ the same finishing time as the bunch even though he was caught out just over the 3km to go mark. It was a tough day for TJ. With around...
  11. Thread: Lakers

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    maybe not enough. 1128762378986897409

    maybe not enough.

    1128762378986897409
  12. Thread: ATOC 2019

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    Cavendish is still returning from his accident...

    Cavendish is still returning from his accident injuries, I think. He barely beat the time cut yesterday.
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    Wait, so you're really saying that because the...

    Wait, so you're really saying that because the Irish are the "blacks of Europe" that they dont suffer from white privilege?
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    I'm sorry, and I sincerely like you and don't...

    I'm sorry, and I sincerely like you and don't mean this to be offensive, but this position makes no sense to me. You're suggesting that we shouldn't celebrate days for parents because you didn't...
  15. Thread: ATOC 2019

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    Maybe an american Mac: Maccabe or McNulty or...

    Maybe an american Mac: Maccabe or McNulty or Porte? It would be fun to see Uran do well, too. They are on the road now and I have not seen splits so no idea how that looks.
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    TBH, a harvard trained anything is probably one...

    TBH, a harvard trained anything is probably one of the last places I would go for common sense input on any cultural matter.

    In my life I have seen women given flowers or candy/treats. I have...
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    Mormons aren't the only ones, its just that they...

    Mormons aren't the only ones, its just that they are so AGGRESSIVE.
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    Are you not yet woke? You poor thing.

    Are you not yet woke? You poor thing.
  19. Thread: ATOC 2019

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    Who'd you think was going to beat him? A flat,...

    Who'd you think was going to beat him? A flat, short stage with a sprinter's finish. This stage was made for Sagan and I think especially because of, not in spite of, his admittedly less than ideal...
  20. Thread: ATOC 2019

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    Sagan for the stage win yesterday. That seemed...

    Sagan for the stage win yesterday. That seemed like a fairly predictable result. Today is a long stage that climbs up to So Lake Tahoe, but I agree with BP that they really need to put these boys...
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    Am I being too aggressive for your sensibility...

    Am I being too aggressive for your sensibility here? I am very sorry. I promise that if you or your wife ever attend my ward I will not try to give you a flower or a treat or any other small token...
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    Was your ward a little too aggressive in trying...

    Was your ward a little too aggressive in trying to give you or your wife a flower? You poor thing.
  23. Thread: ATOC 2019

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    ATOC 2019

    Starts Sunday. Anyone attending any stages? It looks like I will be unable to do so but am hoping for some reports.
  24. It would be helpful if you gave a link or at...

    It would be helpful if you gave a link or at least some more context.
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    True. In one of those activities you get exercise.

    True. In one of those activities you get exercise.
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