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    The so called merit based system he's proposing...

    The so called merit based system he's proposing would slash current levels of legal immigration by half, right? But if you're arguing for that you're making a socialist, government central planning...
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    Trump sat with people from both sides in front of...

    Trump sat with people from both sides in front of the cameras and told them he would sign whatever they came up with. They came up with something a couple of weeks later with the dems and republicans...
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    Also, "open borders" to me means something...

    Also, "open borders" to me means something different than establishing a system where you know who is coming in and why, but you still allow a good number of people to take jobs if they have no...
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    a fix the fence/put a bandaid on the problem may...

    a fix the fence/put a bandaid on the problem may have been well meaning but it didn't work. It isn't the law that is the real problem which was passed 36 years ago. And what went wrong with that one...
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    Well, today I am calm. :-) No references to...

    Well, today I am calm. :-) No references to fascism or anything like that.
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    voted on what? There hasn't been a change/vote...

    voted on what? There hasn't been a change/vote on immigration law in close to 40 years.

    So they've said they don't want illegal immigration. That's not the same thing as treating human beings...
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    I have no idea what you're trying to say. Try...

    I have no idea what you're trying to say. Try calming down. Go to a couple of real libertarian sites (cato.org and reason.com are good ones) and read some stuff to help restore your faith in humanity...
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    The dems passed the current immigration laws? Are...

    The dems passed the current immigration laws? Are you sure? The current laws go back to the Reagan era with more Republican votes than dems. But it was a compromise.
  9. Thread: Comrade Trump

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    I meant the Trump party line. He even got his boy...

    I meant the Trump party line. He even got his boy Devin Nunes to put that in his report.
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    One thing I've learned about the politics of the...

    One thing I've learned about the politics of the immigration debate. There are only two possible solutions:

    "open borders" with no oversight whatsoever over who comes in -- we like criminals the...
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    But I thought the party line was that there was...

    But I thought the party line was that there was no attack.
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    Keep posting. You're one of the best this site...

    Keep posting. You're one of the best this site has.
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    Maybe it's part of the 1% of what Trump says that...

    Maybe it's part of the 1% of what Trump says that isn't a lie.
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    I agree 100%. But they won't because they're...

    I agree 100%. But they won't because they're terrified to just do their job, which many of them are about to lose in November.
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    In my mission we had two countries, one of which...

    In my mission we had two countries, one of which had slightly stricter rules about living there legally than the other. In one you didn't have to do anything to be there because it was all taken care...
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    I believe we would have made a good first step in...

    I believe we would have made a good first step in immigration reform had our president allowed that bipartisan group of legislators who sat in his office with him in front of the cameras and then...
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    I know how this could probably be fixed but it...

    I know how this could probably be fixed but it would require a Constitutional change to how districts are represented.
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    What's the solution to the border problem and how...

    What's the solution to the border problem and how do we get there?
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    on a different topic...is it too apocalyptic to...

    on a different topic...is it too apocalyptic to say that I think today's hyperpartisanship is destructive and dangerous for the country in the long term?
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    There would be more than enough votes for a...

    There would be more than enough votes for a middle of the road immigration bill in both houses if the Dems teamed up with a few moderate Republicans. The main problem with that is procedural because...
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    Sorry, maybe mine just wasn't refreshing. I see...

    Sorry, maybe mine just wasn't refreshing. I see new stories on there now. Honest mistake. Glad they're covering it.

    Trump has a rally in Minnesota tonight. It would seem like him to double and...
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    Here are some Libertarian sources for you to keep...

    Here are some Libertarian sources for you to keep you balanced

    https://www.cato.org/

    http://reason.com/volokh/2018/06/17/enforcing-the-law-cannot-justify-forcibl
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    This is freaking hillarious. Still nothing about...

    This is freaking hillarious. Still nothing about the situation at the border on the front page of Fox, with some old stuff about the IG report trying desperately to get your attention at the top...
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    Got it. So if they're not related they're...

    Got it. So if they're not related they're traffickers and if they are then they're just terrible parents. It's amazing how good the government is at finding new ways to waste money. Thanks Jeff.
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    To the party in control right now, keeping...

    To the party in control right now, keeping America looking a certain way ethnically and culturally through immigration policy seems to be more important than the economy. The one difference under...
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