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  • One more night.. And Football begins..

    I will be watching Boise State vs. Oregon...

    Here's to hoping BSU wins!!!!

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    This is an interesting side-effect of the BCS. Pre-BCS days, I wouldn't have given a thought to BSU vs. Oregon or any other games beteween BCS / Non-BCS. But now I will root for the Non-BCS team every time ....
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    • #3
      Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
      This is an interesting side-effect of the BCS. Pre-BCS days, I wouldn't have given a thought to BSU vs. Oregon or any other games beteween BCS / Non-BCS. But now I will root for the Non-BCS team every time ....
      Some/most BYU fans will root against BSU because they think it will effect BYU's chances of getting into a BCS bowl..

      me?? I want ALL non-BCS teams that are as good as BSU and BYU to win out and continue to show how biased the BCS is....
      Last edited by dabrockster; 09-02-2009, 09:06 AM.

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      • #4
        I am rooting for the Patos. Helps SC if Oregon is undefeated going into the Halloween game.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
          I am rooting for the Patos. Helps SC if Oregon is undefeated going into the Halloween game.
          I agree losing to an undefeated team would be much better for SC than a team with losses like Stanford or Oregon State!
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          • #6
            Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
            Some/most BYU fans will root against BSU because they think it will effect BYU's chances of getting into a BCS bowl..

            me?? I want ALL non-BCS teams that are as good as BSU and BYU to win out and continue to show how biased the BCS is....
            No way, BYU realistically has a shot this year of losing to Oklahoma and still making it to a BCS game if BYU can win out, and I think BYU could do just that. With the way the BCS rules are set up, a non-BCS team will be playing in a BCS bowl most years. Since BYU plays Utah and TCU, BYU controls its own destiny with those teams. The one legitimate fly in the ointment is BSU, so I'll be rooting for BSU to lose.

            As a sidenote, with BYU, BSU, Utah and TCU clearly being the best of the non-BCS bunch, doesn't it seem like the current BCS rules favor us a bit- at least in regard to landing a spot in a BCS bowl? For the next several years, I foresee the non-BCS team in the BCS bowls being one of these four teams (that flukey Hawaii season notwithstanding- June Jones is gone). Only the winner of the Big Least has an easier path.
            Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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            • #7
              Go Ducks!

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              • #8
                As a sidenote, with BYU, BSU, Utah and TCU clearly being the best of the non-BCS bunch, doesn't it seem like the current BCS rules favor us a bit- at least in regard to landing a spot in a BCS bowl? For the next several years, I foresee the non-BCS team in the BCS bowls being one of these four teams (that flukey Hawaii season notwithstanding- June Jones is gone). Only the winner of the Big Least has an easier path.[/QUOTE]


                This is exactly why I think we should add BSU to the MWC. Unlike others I do not think they will fall due to competition.. I only see positives adding them..

                BYU, Utah, TCU, and BSu all in the same league only solidifies (In my mind) that the MWC would be better then the ACC and Big East...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
                  As a sidenote, with BYU, BSU, Utah and TCU clearly being the best of the non-BCS bunch, doesn't it seem like the current BCS rules favor us a bit- at least in regard to landing a spot in a BCS bowl? For the next several years, I foresee the non-BCS team in the BCS bowls being one of these four teams (that flukey Hawaii season notwithstanding- June Jones is gone). Only the winner of the Big Least has an easier path.

                  This is exactly why I think we should add BSU to the MWC. Unlike others I do not think they will fall due to competition.. I only see positives adding them..

                  BYU, Utah, TCU, and BSu all in the same league only solidifies (In my mind) that the MWC would be better then the ACC and Big East...[/QUOTE]

                  I agree that the MWC should add BSU.

                  I disagree that the addition would make the MWC better than the MWC. Maybe in the short run, but not in the long run. The ACC is better than people give it credit for. It's true that the recent BCS bowl record sucks, but that is a conference that has a lot of talent, a lot of parity, and is in a lull due to some questionable coaching at big time schools.

                  There's some stat I heard the other day on ESPN radio that said that the ACC has had more first round draft picks than any other conference over the past five years or past decade (I can't remember).

                  Virginia Tech has been the standard bearer for that conference over the past few years. But Miami will eventually resolve its questionable coaching situation and will become Miami again. Bobby Bowden will eventually retire and Florida State may become relevant again (maybe not with the first coach after Bowden). Then there's Butch Davis at UNC- the guy behind building the Miami juggernaut from earlier this decade, and UNC is certainly getting better. Add in the fact that Boston College, Georgia Tech, NC State and Wake Forest are not easy outs, and it's clear that the MWC is nowhere close to being as good as the ACC.

                  I would be more willing to entertain the argument that the MWC would get better than the Big 10, and I'm not joking.

                  Consider Miami's Conference Schedule:

                  @Florida State, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest and UNC.
                  Home with Georgia Tech, Clemson, Virginia and Duke (yeah, I know).

                  A Big 10 schedule just wouldn't scare me more than an ACC schedule.
                  Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                    This is exactly why I think we should add BSU to the MWC. Unlike others I do not think they will fall due to competition.. I only see positives adding them..
                    I think they'd add to football. But what else?
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                    • #11
                      Virginia Tech has been the standard bearer for that conference over the past few years. But Miami will eventually resolve its questionable coaching situation and will become Miami again. Bobby Bowden will eventually retire and Florida State may become relevant again (maybe not with the first coach after Bowden).
                      Just because? I am always intrigued by the belief that merely due to the fact that a school was once great, they will again become great.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                        Just because? I am always intrigued by the belief that merely due to the fact that a school was once great, they will again become great.
                        Well said, Lingo.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                          Just because? I am always intrigued by the belief that merely due to the fact that a school was once great, they will again become great.
                          especially when you're talking about a flash-in-the-pan school like Miami. Miami isn't exactly a traditional powerhouse. They had a good run from the mid-eighties to the mid-nineties, and that was pretty much it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Babs View Post
                            especially when you're talking about a flash-in-the-pan school like Miami. Miami isn't exactly a traditional powerhouse. They had a good run from the mid-eighties to the mid-nineties, and that was pretty much it.
                            Nevermind the fact during that time it was a considered a very shady program as well...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
                              Nevermind the fact during that time it was a considered a very shady program as well...
                              NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

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