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    Rather than simply mention this book in the nonfiction thread as one I just finished reading, I’m starting a new thread in the hope others who have read it might comment on it. For those who haven’t, I’ll summarize it briefly. It’s by Thomas Friedman, the New York Times columnist who has written a number of books (e.g., From Beirut to Jerusalem) and tends to focus on the Middle East. This book focuses on global warming (Hot), globalization and leveling of the world’s economic playing field (Flat) and the rapidly growing demands on natural resources due to the rapidly expanding world population (Crowded). I haven’t read a lot on these subjects, so this served as a useful and interesting primer, especially on the subject of petrodictators who have siphoned off so much of our nations’ and others’ wealth. BTW, Friedman wrote an earlier book, The World is Flat, which discusses globalization in greater detail, I presume.

    The first half of the book stakes out the problems that face us, and surmises that we pretty much squandered an opportunity to go green and reduce our petrodependency after 9/11. We are now in what he describes as the Energy/Climate Era, in which the quality of our lives, if not our existence, will depend on how we address the problems described in the book’s first half.

    For me, the most interesting part was his discussion of the effect of oil on the Middle East and how it has killed the entrepreneurial spirit and academic research in that region. When all you have to do to produce a valuable product is draw it from the ground, why bother with anything else? Consequently, the countries in the Middle East most likely to show innovation and entrepreneurship are those who have run (or are quickly running) out of oil, like Bahrain.

    The second half of the book discusses how we get out of the worsening mess. He proposes a kind of energy internet where a variety of alternate energy sources (solar, wind, nuclear, etc.) are promoted with much better sharing and linkage within communities. I thought it was very interesting, but I’d love to hear a critique from engineers and others as to its feasibility. I get the sense that Obama has read this book, or at least has become familiar with its themes, as his public works ideas (sketchy though they’ve been) seem directed toward the same objectives as Friedman’s.

  • #2
    Friedman wrote a book on Globalization? Well I'll be...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
      Rather than simply mention this book in the nonfiction thread as one I just finished reading, I’m starting a new thread in the hope others who have read it might comment on it. For those who haven’t, I’ll summarize it briefly. It’s by Thomas Friedman, the New York Times columnist who has written a number of books (e.g., From Beirut to Jerusalem) and tends to focus on the Middle East. This book focuses on global warming (Hot), globalization and leveling of the world’s economic playing field (Flat) and the rapidly growing demands on natural resources due to the rapidly expanding world population (Crowded). I haven’t read a lot on these subjects, so this served as a useful and interesting primer, especially on the subject of petrodictators who have siphoned off so much of our nations’ and others’ wealth. BTW, Friedman wrote an earlier book, The World is Flat, which discusses globalization in greater detail, I presume.

      The first half of the book stakes out the problems that face us, and surmises that we pretty much squandered an opportunity to go green and reduce our petrodependency after 9/11. We are now in what he describes as the Energy/Climate Era, in which the quality of our lives, if not our existence, will depend on how we address the problems described in the book’s first half.

      For me, the most interesting part was his discussion of the effect of oil on the Middle East and how it has killed the entrepreneurial spirit and academic research in that region. When all you have to do to produce a valuable product is draw it from the ground, why bother with anything else? Consequently, the countries in the Middle East most likely to show innovation and entrepreneurship are those who have run (or are quickly running) out of oil, like Bahrain.

      The second half of the book discusses how we get out of the worsening mess. He proposes a kind of energy internet where a variety of alternate energy sources (solar, wind, nuclear, etc.) are promoted with much better sharing and linkage within communities. I thought it was very interesting, but I’d love to hear a critique from engineers and others as to its feasibility. I get the sense that Obama has read this book, or at least has become familiar with its themes, as his public works ideas (sketchy though they’ve been) seem directed toward the same objectives as Friedman’s.
      I read the world is flat and while it had some great Ideas its clear Friedman is a commie with a bad view of what is pragmatic or feasible
      "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

      "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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      • #4
        There has to be some sort of Goatnapper innuendo in that kind of title.
        "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


        "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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        • #5
          Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
          There has to be some sort of Goatnapper innuendo in that kind of title.
          That was my first thought. "What are three words Goatnapper has never used together in a sentence?" was what popped into my mind when seeing the title of this thread.
          A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali

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          • #6
            I just finished this one. I like Friedman's writing style and I agree with about 80% of what he says in this book. A few thoughts.

            1. He repeatedly refers to Hurricane Katrina as a consequence of global warming. Even if there is some evidence that stronger hurricanes may be occurring more frequently, the disaster portion of Katrina was a result of the long recognized adverse geographical position of New Orleans, nothing more.

            2. He tends to quote chosen experts in the field who agree with whatever thesis he is currently presenting. I would prefer more data and less expert opinion. It's pretty easy to find some prominent person to agree with you on any topic.

            3. I like his attitude of pragmatic environmentalism. Explain to people how tropical forests can be worth more in the long-term if they are allowed to remain than if they are chopped down. Explain to companies that becoming more energy efficient will give them a competitive advantage over other companies, etc. He appreciates the power of capitalism and realizes that only the profit motive (or at least the motive to remain in business) can really bring about environmental change.

            4. I've thought a little bit about the connection between oil and terrorism before, but it's important for Americans to realize that a significant portion of our oil money eventually ends up in the hands of Palestinian, Arab, and Pakistani terrorists. In retrospect, much higher gasoline taxes over the 80s and 90s may have shifted the auto industry toward natural gas and electric sooner and prevented Bin Laden and his ilk and greatly weakened the islamofascists in Iran

            5. Like PAC, I liked the part about Bahrain and how more oil money leads to less freedom. He made a compelling argument in that regard..

            6. Some of what Friedman admires about China kind of freaked me out. He thinks it's great for the government to determine thermostat levels and to ban plastic bags, for example.

            Overall, the book made me less pessimistic about Obama and the Dems, though. There is an upside to more of the right kind of environmental regulation. I'm not ready to drink the same koolaid on the environment that Friedman obviously has drunk, but I thought the book was definitely worth reading.

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