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    Combining Blue and Red to make a great Purple!

    Not that I would ever advocate the mixing of the two, but I got thinking about how BYU and Utah seem to poach one or two players every year that would really help the other team. If there was no BYU football, or Utah football and just one major college football program in the state with a faith based institution (for the LDS draw) but without the honor code I reckon they could get quite a team together.

    For instance, this year, if you combined the BYU and Utah rosters, taking the best at every position, what would that team look like? I only know the BYU roster and I would assume the following:

    QB: Hall
    RB: Unga
    RB: Mack
    WR: Jacobsen (if he is what he was before the mission)
    WR: Utah
    TE: Pitta
    LT: Reynolds
    LG: Utah?
    C: Utah?
    RG: Utah?
    RT: Utah?

    DE: Jorgensen
    Rest of Defense Utah?

    I would imagine that the powerful purple team created from Blue and Red would be as good as any in the nation?
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    Mack is gone, so Asiata would be in his place.

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    • #3
      I have said before that I think the biggest problem Utah and BYU both have in getting to the next level is each other. If there were just one it could easily be a BCS contender year in year out IMO. Looking at conferences, the team would own the Big-12 North and be a regular #2 in the Pac-10.

      Not that I'm advocating that ...
      "It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."

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      • #4
        Originally posted by HotBox View Post
        Not that I would ever advocate the mixing of the two, but I got thinking about how BYU and Utah seem to poach one or two players every year that would really help the other team. If there was no BYU football, or Utah football and just one major college football program in the state with a faith based institution (for the LDS draw) but without the honor code I reckon they could get quite a team together.

        For instance, this year, if you combined the BYU and Utah rosters, taking the best at every position, what would that team look like? I only know the BYU roster and I would assume the following:

        QB: Hall
        RB: Unga
        RB: Mack
        WR: Jacobsen (if he is what he was before the mission)
        WR: Utah
        TE: Pitta
        LT: Reynolds
        LG: Utah?
        C: Utah?
        RG: Utah?
        RT: Utah?

        DE: Jorgensen
        Rest of Defense Utah?

        I would imagine that the powerful purple team created from Blue and Red would be as good as any in the nation?
        Reed would be the likely candidate for WR from Utah. Zane Beadles is getting some talk for AA and All-MWC at a tackle position, Zane Taylor is a good choice for Center(he may play guard for us this year though).
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        • #5
          Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
          I have said before that I think the biggest problem Utah and BYU both have in getting to the next level is each other. If there were just one it could easily be a BCS contender year in year out IMO. Looking at conferences, the team would own the Big-12 North and be a regular #2 in the Pac-10.

          Not that I'm advocating that ...
          It seems to me that the more universities in a state with D-1 FB programs, the more HS FB athletes there are that are top notch.

          I don't have any evidence for this, just a hunch. Look at Florida and Texas.

          I think you take away one of the Utah programs and the number of kids in the area participating will decrease.
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          • #6
            Was Hall really better than Johnson? Hall had bigger numbers but choked when he faced a defense with speed. Johnson led Utah to an undefeated season.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by doctorcoug View Post
              I don't have any evidence for this, just a hunch. Look at Florida and Texas.
              LOL. Look at the populations of those states.
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              • #8
                This is how I see the breakdown:

                QB: Hall (BYU)
                RB: Unga (BYU)
                RB: Asiata (Utah)
                WR: Jacobsen (BYU)
                WR: Reed (Utah)
                LT: Reynolds (BYU)
                LG: Brown (BYU)
                C: Taylor (Utah)
                RG: Schlauderaff (Utah)
                RT: Beadles (Utah)

                DE:Jorgensen (BYU)
                DE: Misi (Utah)
                DT: Eliapo (Utah)
                OLB: Sylvester (Utah)
                OLB: Pendelton (BYU)
                MLB: Wright (UTah)
                MLB: Gaison (Utah)
                CB: Stanford (Utah)
                CB: Bradley (BYU)
                S: Dale (UTah, Legit argument can be made here for Andrew Rich of BYU)
                S: Johnson (Utah)

                P: Riley Stephenson (BYU)
                K: Vroman (Utah)

                PR: Reed (Utah)
                KR: Jacobsen (BYU)
                *Banned*

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                  Was Hall really better than Johnson? Hall had bigger numbers but choked when he faced a defense with speed. Johnson led Utah to an undefeated season.
                  I believe they're looking at players who still have eligibility this next season.

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                  • #10
                    Since BYU will clearly struggle with the athletic prowess of the Tulanes of the football world, I'll just save everyone the time and insert a Utah player at every position.

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                    • #11
                      This is for 2009

                      Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                      Was Hall really better than Johnson? Hall had bigger numbers but choked when he faced a defense with speed. Johnson led Utah to an undefeated season.
                      I am talking about this year's teams. If it were last year, I would have had Hall play quarters 1-3.75 and then brought in Johnson for the last 4 minutes of the game, the only time he was effective for a majority of the games last year. Hall would be on a very short leash, two picks and he is done.
                      Last edited by HotBox; 06-17-2009, 10:18 AM. Reason: Making more sense

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
                        LOL. Look at the populations of those states.
                        You don't think those 2 things are related?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                          This is how I see the breakdown:

                          QB: Hall (BYU)
                          RB: Unga (BYU)
                          RB: Asiata (Utah)
                          WR: Jacobsen (BYU)
                          WR: Reed (Utah)
                          LT: Reynolds (BYU)
                          LG: Brown (BYU)
                          C: Taylor (Utah)
                          RG: Schlauderaff (Utah)
                          RT: Beadles (Utah)

                          DE:Jorgensen (BYU)
                          DE: Misi (Utah)
                          DT: Eliapo (Utah)
                          OLB: Sylvester (Utah)
                          OLB: Pendelton (BYU)
                          MLB: Wright (UTah)
                          MLB: Gaison (Utah)
                          CB: Stanford (Utah)
                          CB: Bradley (BYU)
                          S: Dale (UTah, Legit argument can be made here for Andrew Rich of BYU)
                          S: Johnson (Utah)

                          P: Riley Stephenson (BYU)
                          K: Vroman (Utah)

                          PR: Reed (Utah)
                          KR: Jacobsen (BYU)

                          Let's run a 4-3 though. Please can we just run a 4-3?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                            This is how I see the breakdown:

                            QB: Hall (BYU)
                            RB: Unga (BYU)
                            RB: Asiata (Utah)
                            WR: Jacobsen (BYU)
                            WR: Reed (Utah)
                            LT: Reynolds (BYU)
                            LG: Brown (BYU)
                            C: Taylor (Utah)
                            RG: Schlauderaff (Utah)
                            RT: Beadles (Utah)

                            DE:Jorgensen (BYU)
                            DE: Misi (Utah)
                            DT: Eliapo (Utah)
                            OLB: Sylvester (Utah)
                            OLB: Pendelton (BYU)
                            MLB: Wright (UTah)
                            MLB: Gaison (Utah)
                            CB: Stanford (Utah)
                            CB: Bradley (BYU)
                            S: Dale (UTah, Legit argument can be made here for Andrew Rich of BYU)
                            S: Johnson (Utah)

                            P: Riley Stephenson (BYU)
                            K: Vroman (Utah)

                            PR: Reed (Utah)
                            KR: Jacobsen (BYU)
                            I don't know anything about the Ute roster, but adding Pendelton to that list seems ludicrous considering he has never played a down in that position. Unless they Utes are starting a TRUE freshman OLB, Pendelton only has years at the D-1 practice level that would qualify him.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by doctorcoug View Post
                              You don't think those 2 things are related?
                              Do the math. # of competetive D1 football programs compared to population. Or take it a step farther and look at # of High Schools if you like.

                              Utah is small time (as a state). There is nothing wrong with that but I don't get why people here can't accept it.
                              "It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."

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