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Surfah
12-02-2008, 06:26 PM
Graham Watson said this in her blog about BYU and I agree. I am still trying to tell myself it was a great season, but my head can't get around the what could have been/what should have been thoughts.

TripletDaddy
12-02-2008, 06:30 PM
It feels like a disappointment because we had higher expectations, the expectations were reasonable, and we made it through more than half the season with the goal intact.

The one good thing about 10-2 feeling like a sucky season.....we are finally thinking like the big boys.

For me personally, the worst part about this season is that many of SeattleUte's drug-induced football hallucinations seemed to come awfully close to fruition.

SteelBlue
12-02-2008, 06:30 PM
Graham Watson said this in her blog about BYU and I agree. I am still trying to tell myself it was a great season, but my head can't get around the what could have been/what should have been thoughts.

For me it feels disappointing because they lost to the 2 good teams they played.

YOhio
12-02-2008, 06:33 PM
I had a friend say that he was expecting this season to turn out like a wet dream, but he woke up to an involuntary bowel movement. Though it didn't make much sense it made me laugh.

creekster
12-02-2008, 06:49 PM
For me it feels disappointing because they lost to the 2 good teams they played.

Ditto.

UtahDan
12-02-2008, 07:13 PM
Normally this is where I chime in about wacky BYU fan expectations. In this case however, there was good reason to think BYU had a very, very good team. To then get throttled by the other two good teams in the conference was a long way to fall. It is a disappointing. It would have been less disappointing with the same record had those two games be competitive.

Surfah
12-02-2008, 07:21 PM
I guess it also sucks going 10-2 and finishing third in the MWC also. I think I am just also whining with bowl selections on the horizon and the possibility of playing some lame ass team again. At least our little bowl streak should stay intact.

Brian
12-02-2008, 07:56 PM
qUest for perfection. It's hard when the magic coin hysteria gets out of control.

I was optimistic for 10-2. Expected a loss at a then ranked Michigan and then split the other two hard games (byu/tcu). So even at 9-3, I would still have been excited about the bowl game.

BlueHair
12-02-2008, 08:15 PM
I honestly think this team overachieved. 10-2 with our defense is nothing short of a miracle. TCU was not a winnable game. Utah might have been winnable, but I would have considered a win surprising.

DrumNFeather
12-02-2008, 09:40 PM
This is probably a terrible analogy, but I'll go with it. This season for the Cougars reminds me of what the local radio guys here in D.C. said about the return of Joe Gibbs. In Washington D.C., Joe Gibbs can do no wrong and despite the fact that the team was non competitive half the time he was here and got blown out of the playoffs the other two years...the fans largely refuse to blame Gibbs.

In his short tenure as the Cougars head coach, Bronco has reached this status with a good number of the fans. Sizzle calls it the "Bronco Boner." Bronco can really do no wrong with a good majority of the fans and the ones who still find fault want to believe what he is saying and as such overlook the faults. This year, his schtick reached an all time high with the "Quest" and various other mottoes and whatnot.

Another major part of the Cougar fans love for and faith in Bronco was the thought that KW was not a very good coach and that BYU by far got the better of the two coaches. Now that KW has gone 12-0 and has a conference title and is in a BCS bowl and might be here for the long run, some fans don't know what to think. Among other things they are calling him a "one hit wonder" and running class smack.

This season is a major disappointment because the Cougars' rival to the north is 12-0 and where BYU fans believed they'd be at the end of this season.

Surfah
12-02-2008, 09:59 PM
This is probably a terrible analogy, but I'll go with it. This season for the Cougars reminds me of what the local radio guys here in D.C. said about the return of Joe Gibbs. In Washington D.C., Joe Gibbs can do no wrong and despite the fact that the team was non competitive half the time he was here and got blown out of the playoffs the other two years...the fans largely refuse to blame Gibbs.

In his short tenure as the Cougars head coach, Bronco has reached this status with a good number of the fans. Sizzle calls it the "Bronco Boner." Bronco can really do no wrong with a good majority of the fans and the ones who still find fault want to believe what he is saying and as such overlook the faults. This year, his schtick reached an all time high with the "Quest" and various other mottoes and whatnot.

Another major part of the Cougar fans love for and faith in Bronco was the thought that KW was not a very good coach and that BYU by far got the better of the two coaches. Now that KW has gone 12-0 and has a conference title and is in a BCS bowl and might be here for the long run, some fans don't know what to think. Among other things they are calling him a "one hit wonder" and running class smack.

This season is a major disappointment because the Cougars' rival to the north is 12-0 and where BYU fans believed they'd be at the end of this season.

I think your analogy works. I don't think I ever had a Bronco Boner. Maybe a Bronco semi. And I always thought that KW was a hell of a coach and wanted him as first choice when GC was cut loose.

DrumNFeather
12-02-2008, 10:11 PM
I think your analogy works. I don't think I ever had a Bronco Boner. Maybe a Bronco semi. And I always thought that KW was a hell of a coach and wanted him as first choice when GC was cut loose.

I think a good number of fans wanted KW, but quickly changed their position to the "he is a low class idiot who can't coach" once Bronco found success and KW struggled.

So, we'll call Surfah's official stance on Bronco "half a stock." (Thanks Jay and Silent Bob)

BlueHair
12-02-2008, 10:25 PM
I think a good number of fans wanted KW, but quickly changed their position to the "he is a low class idiot who can't coach" once Bronco found success and KW struggled.

So, we'll call Surfah's official stance on Bronco "half a stock." (Thanks Jay and Silent Bob)

I heard all kind of rumors about KW. Porn addiction was my favorite. A former co-worker of mine claims that some players were upset that Kyle was looking at a Playboy while jogging on a treadmill. That was easy to debunk. It's obvious Kyle hasn't been on a treadmill in years.

SeattleUte
12-02-2008, 10:42 PM
Graham Watson said this in her blog about BYU and I agree. I am still trying to tell myself it was a great season, but my head can't get around the what could have been/what should have been thoughts.

It wasn't a great season for BYU. Any program worth its salt should be dominating the MWC. It must be hard for BYU fans to have had Utah twice, Hawaii, and even Boise go to BCS bowls, and nary a one for BYU. That would be horrible, especially for BYU fans who always gravitate to this inbred sense of football superiority at the slightest positive development.

SeattleUte
12-02-2008, 10:45 PM
For me it feels disappointing because they lost to the 2 good teams they played.

That too.

What about this stat that BYU is 1-20 against ranked teams.

BlueHair
12-02-2008, 10:50 PM
It wasn't a great season for BYU. Any program worth its salt should be dominating the MWC. It must be hard for BYU fans to have had Utah twice, Hawaii, and even Boise go to BCS bowls, and nary a one for BYU. That would be horrible, especially for BYU fans who always gravitate to this inbred sense of football superiority at the slightest positive development.

Now we know how you guys have felt the past three years.

SeattleUte
12-02-2008, 10:55 PM
Now we know how you guys have felt the past three years.

I didn't know BYU was top fourth and sixth in the nation and went to a big bowl. Did I have a head injury?

TripletDaddy
12-02-2008, 10:58 PM
It wasn't a great season for BYU. Any program worth its salt should be dominating the MWC. It must be hard for BYU fans to have had Utah twice, Hawaii, and even Boise go to BCS bowls, and nary a one for BYU. That would be horrible, especially for BYU fans who always gravitate to this inbred sense of football superiority at the slightest positive development.

Somehow, the 22 conference championships, 26 bowl games, the Heisman and the National Championship take some of the edge off the pain.

I know, I know....it isn't the same as 3 outright conference championships. But hey, it is a start.

BlueHair
12-02-2008, 10:58 PM
I didn't know BYU was top fourth and sixth in the nation and went to a big bowl. Did I have a head injury?

I was referencing the fact that you didn't dominate the MWC.

SeattleUte
12-02-2008, 11:05 PM
Somehow, the 22 conference championships, 26 bowl games, the Heisman and the National Championship take some of the edge off the pain.

I know, I know....it isn't the same as 3 outright conference championships. But hey, it is a start.

Would the BCS have let BYU's 1984 team play in the NC game?

OrangeUte
12-02-2008, 11:07 PM
I was referencing the fact that you didn't dominate the MWC.

I didn't know that BYU dominated the MWC the last 3 years...

BlueHair
12-02-2008, 11:09 PM
Would the BCS have let BYU's 1984 team play in the NC game?

Washington was offered the chance. They declined because they were scared. Rightfully so. BYU throttled them 31-3 in the 1985 season opener.

BlueHair
12-02-2008, 11:11 PM
I didn't know that BYU dominated the MWC the last 3 years...

Utah dominated in 2004. TCU in '05, BYU in '06 and '07. So it has been three years since Utah last dominated.

TripletDaddy
12-02-2008, 11:25 PM
Would the BCS have let BYU's 1984 team play in the NC game?

who cares. if not for a threatened anti-trust lawsuit, would Utah have received an auto-bid to the Fiesta Bowl?

The utes did a great thing this year and deserve credit. And they were fantastic in 2004.

Comparing Utah football to BYU football and referencing a curious sense of self-entitlement is laughable.

Again, get back to me when the Utes win about 20 more conference championships. Or even 10 more. Aren't you even slightly embarassed by 3 outright championships in almost 50 years? I would be.

il Padrino Ute
12-03-2008, 12:49 AM
Somehow, the 22 conference championships, 26 bowl games, the Heisman and the National Championship take some of the edge off the pain.

I know, I know....it isn't the same as 3 outright conference championships. But hey, it is a start.

I know you're just having some fun, but why do BYU fans only think that football started in 1972?

History starts from the beginning.

Utah has 24 outright + 2 shared conference titles.

Utes are 11-3 in bowl games with a current 7 game bowl win streak.

BYU is 9-16-1 in bowl games.

Yes, I know most of Utah's success was before I was born - save the bowl games - but I'll let the facts speak for themselves.

il Padrino Ute
12-03-2008, 12:53 AM
Graham Watson said this in her blog about BYU and I agree. I am still trying to tell myself it was a great season, but my head can't get around the what could have been/what should have been thoughts.

One thing that is a positive, though it won't help you feel any better, is that BYU at 10-2 and being the 3rd best team in the MWC says a lot about how far this conference has come in the short 10 years it's been around.

RockyBalboa
12-03-2008, 07:28 AM
It's better to bitch about a 10-2 season than the losing kind of seasons we had under Crowton.

Should this team return intact on the offensive side of the ball, and I personally think they will, and yes....my homerism thinks the defense can't be worse than it was this year....I really like our chances next year.

The Home Schedule works out perfectly for us. A place we haven't lost in over 3 years.

DrumNFeather
12-03-2008, 07:41 AM
It's better to bitch about a 10-2 season than the losing kind of seasons we had under Crowton.

Should this team return intact on the offensive side of the ball, and I personally think they will, and yes....my homerism thinks the defense can't be worse than it was this year....I really like our chances next year.

The Home Schedule works out perfectly for us. A place we haven't lost in over 3 years.

What do you think about the road games @ASU and essentially @Oklahoma.

OrangeUte
12-03-2008, 07:55 AM
I know you're just having some fun, but why do BYU fans only think that football started in 1972?

History starts from the beginning.

Utah has 24 outright + 2 shared conference titles.

Utes are 11-3 in bowl games with a current 7 game bowl win streak.

BYU is 9-16-1 in bowl games.

Yes, I know most of Utah's success was before I was born - save the bowl games - but I'll let the facts speak for themselves.

Il Pad hit this one just right. Nice!

RockyBalboa
12-03-2008, 08:12 AM
What do you think about the road games @ASU and essentially @Oklahoma.

I think we'll be good enough to beat ASU on the road...I mean hell if UNLV can do it...

The Oklahoma game hasn't been signed, sealed and delivered yet and I think the longer the delay the less chances of that happening are. But if it does happen, I don't like our chances much.

Good thing about that game if it does happen is it's the 1st game of the year and should we lose, and yet go undefeated the rest of the season........well I don't want to think too far ahead..

However if one season and yes this is just me dreaming here...they were able to defeat Florida State, Oklahoma, Arizona State, Utah and TCU all in one year.....it might allow me to dream further than just a Jan 1. bowl.

OrangeUte
12-03-2008, 09:01 AM
who cares. if not for a threatened anti-trust lawsuit, would Utah have received an auto-bid to the Fiesta Bowl?

Yes. Urban Meyer was a great advertiser and promoter of the Ute football program that year, the Utes were on ESPN (hell, gameday came, and I am sure that wasn't because of the anti-trust threats), and Alex Smith was a Heisman finalist.