BYU stronger than the MWC and ND combined

[lambdacoug]

Over the last 5 years, at least...and according to this measure. You could throw in the WAC and Sun Belt too, for the fun of it.

What really pisses me off though, is that BYU and Utah both have the same number (for whatever it's worth)...

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...urphy/19380435

[TripletDaddy]

Is that list accurate? It shows BYU with a higher performance ranking than Clemson, Florida state, and Louisville over the past 5 years.

[kccougar]

Is that list accurate? It shows BYU with a higher performance ranking than Clemson, Florida state, and Louisville over the past 5 years.

Sounds right to me.

[CardiacCoug]

Is that list accurate? It shows BYU with a higher performance ranking than Clemson, Florida state, and Louisville over the past 5 years.

Shows the advantage of playing an easier schedule (including easier bowl game competition) when it comes to sneaking into the bottom of the BCS Top 25 at the end of the season.

[lambdacoug]

Shows the advantage of playing an easier schedule (including easier bowl game competition) when it comes to sneaking into the bottom of the BCS Top 25 at the end of the season.

Of course the same applies to TCU, BSU, and Utah (for 4 of the last 5 years).

[byu71]

Shows the advantage of playing an easier schedule (including easier bowl game competition) when it comes to sneaking into the bottom of the BCS Top 25 at the end of the season.

True. I would like to see some analysis done based on the level of competition.

By that I mean how good the team you played was that year, not what their reputation is. Maybe someone like Sagarin has done that.

Frankly someone could end up 7-5 in their conference, we end up 9-3 on the season and ranked higher, yet that 7-5 team could have beaten us 54-10 during the year.

[Indy Coug]

True. I would like to see some analysis done based on the level of competition.

By that I mean how good the team you played was that year, not what their reputation is. Maybe someone like Sagarin has done that.

Frankly someone could end up 7-5 in their conference, we end up 9-3 on the season and ranked higher, yet that 7-5 team could have beaten us 54-10 during the year.

That's why the season rankings are based on 12 or 13 games instead of one. Sample size, sample size.

[byu71]

That's why the season rankings are based on 12 or 13 games instead of one. Sample size, sample size.

You are smart enough to get my point.

Sometime when you get a chance at the end of the year. Look at how many teams with cupcake schedules are ranked higher than teams that would be favorites to beat them in a head to head.

[lambdacoug]

Frankly someone could end up 7-5 in their conference, we end up 9-3 on the season and ranked higher, yet that 7-5 team could have beaten us 54-10 during the year.

Thank you, this really made my day so much brighter.

:igiveup:

[Indy Coug]

You are smart enough to get my point.

Sometime when you get a chance at the end of the year. Look at how many teams with cupcake schedules are ranked higher than teams that would be favorites to beat them in a head to head.

And sometimes teams at the end of year are a lot better than they were early in the year when they got beaten like a drum.

And sometimes teams at the end of the year that beat a 10-3 team early in the season by 40 points lose at home to a 3-10 team.

[pellegrino]

I don't see the point in this analysis.

[byu71]

And sometimes teams at the end of year are a lot better than they were early in the year when they got beaten like a drum.

And sometimes teams at the end of the year that beat a 10-3 team early in the season by 40 points lose at home to a 3-10 team.

Excellent point. In college football should a team be ranked based on their body of work or how good they are at the end of the year? I am in favor of end of year, but that is awfully tough to judge.

Not to pick on us, but if we finish 4-0 against NMSU, SJSU, Idaho and Idaho St., with a bowl win over Tulsa.

Are we better than ND who goes 2-2 against Michigan, Navy, USC, Boston College and has bowl win over Texas.

[Indy Coug]

Excellent point. In college football should a team be ranked based on their body of work or how good they are at the end of the year? I am in favor of end of year, but that is awfully tough to judge.

Not to pick on us, but if we finish 4-0 against NMSU, SJSU, Idaho and Idaho St., with a bowl win over Tulsa.

Are we better than ND who goes 2-2 against Michigan, Navy, USC, Boston College and has bowl win over Nebraska.

If they barely beat Navy and BC and Nebraska and lose to Michigan and USC by 50 points each? Hard to say.

[byu71]

If they barely beat Navy and BC and Nebraska and lose to Michigan and USC by 50 points each? Hard to say.

Yep, coaches and adminstrators, even fans to a lesser degree, can't just go by how they are ranked at the end of the year to determine how good their program is. If they do, they might make a misjudgement and become complacent while others who are not complacent pass them by.

[Paperback Writer]

And sometimes teams at the end of year are a lot better than they were early in the year when they got beaten like a drum.

And sometimes teams at the end of the year that beat a 10-3 team early in the season by 40 points lose at home to a 3-10 team.

That's not a statistical anomaly, that's Colorado football. The Buffs have a long, proud history of squandering a season only to play well against their conference rival in their regular season finale. A few more examples besides last season:

2009: Nebraska (10-4) 28 Colorado (3-9) 20
2008: Nebraska (9-4) 40 Colorado (5-7) 31
2003: Nebraska (10-3) 31 Colorado (5-7) 22
2001: Colorado (10-3) 62 Nebraska (11-2) 36
2000: Nebraska (10-2) 34 Colorado (3-8) 32
1999: Nebraska (12-1) 33 Colorado (7-5) 30
1997: Nebraska (13-0) 27 Colorado (5-6) 24