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    EDIT: Four months ago I was surprised to see this thread resurface when someone bumped it. I emailed a member of the executive committee with the following:

    The first Robin thread, which I started last November, chronicling his many suspensions and questionable behavior; I wouldn't mind seeing it deleted. If one of you cares to ask Robin whether he'd like to see it go, I'm all for it. No announcement needed.
    The reply:

    I asked the committee to weigh in on this one. In general, we like to give extra weight to thread deletion requests when the originator of the thread makes the request. This one is a little different since the thread is so old and since there are so many long replies. The committee is split 50-50 on this one. I asked Robin about it and he is strongly opposed to the thread being deleted since he put a lot of time into his responses. He has a point there.
    So out of respect to Robin's wishes, this thread still exists. Consider it his intellectual property.

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    Robin, I might as well be honest , your presence here gives me the creeps.

    You joined CougarGuard on 1/15/06, and were suspended twice in your first two weeks for repeatedly divulging personal info about Mike, despite warnings.

    Then you wanted into the Crypt, but the vote was 77% no. So on 2/1/06, you went into a tirade on several threads, left a farewell post, and deleted all 195 of your posts.

    On 2/21/06, after three weeks of playing the role of the martyr on CougarBoard, you received a 3-day suspension, then went back to CougarGuard and offered to rejoin, so long as you were let into the Crypt. Which was rejected.

    On 3/20/06 you began posting regularly again, but continued the frequent whining about the Crypt.

    On 4/10/06 you were banned. You sent the same whiny email to everyone, again playing the role of the innocent victim.

    On 5/25/06 your ban was lifted after you kept pestering Mike to give you another chance. Your wife "Faith" also signed up.

    On 6/16/06 you were banned for one week for lewdness, including remarks about your wife's discharge.

    On 8/27/06, Mike accidentally left the Crypt open. You stated that you "downloaded" all 2,280 threads within. (And earlier today, you left a post here quoting a post from Mike on 1/28/06).

    On 8/28/06 you were banned for good. You asked Fusnik to post another victim martyr farewell.

    In 12/06 you asked Mike to lift the ban, and he refused. Around this same time you commenced posting gay pornographic images in the comments section of his personal blog.

    On 5/10/07 you returned as DarkBritches. Once it was discovered to be you, the account was disabled.

    On 10/17/07 you returned as Rogan. The account was disabled.

    On 11/20/07 you returned as Stumpy. Once it was discovered to be you, the account was disabled.

    On 12/6/07 you resumed pestering Mike to reinstate your original Robin account, which he declined.

    On 5/7/08 you returned as Kite Rider. Once it was discovered to be you, the account was disabled.

    Now what I find disturbing is that today, only two hours after Jeff Lebowski left a post in Chit Chat announcing this site, you signed up and posted. 29 months after being banned as Robin, and 6 months after been banned as Kite Rider, you were still there, frequenting everything.
    Last edited by Fiyero; 01-09-2010, 01:34 PM.

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    More creepy that you have all of this logged or Robins actions?

    I will say its a toss up.
    *Banned*

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    • #3
      Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
      More creepy that you have all of this logged or Robins actions?

      I will say its a toss up.
      Maybe all he had to do was push a button. Information technology, dipshit.
      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

      --Jonathan Swift

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
        Maybe all he had to do was push a button. Information technology, dipshit.
        Is that similar to pushing a button when looking up 2009 basketball recruits? Because someone seems to struggle with that.
        *Banned*

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        • #5
          Robin - I will admit, I get a weird vibe as well, and I didn't even know your history with Mike. And now the vibe I felt I will call intuition.
          I am a philosophical Goldilocks, always looking for something neither too big nor too small, neither too hot nor too cold, something jussssst right. I'll send you a card from purgatory. - PAC

          You know how President Hinckley said he doesn't worry about those who pray? The same can be said for men who are self-aware enough to know when there's a life to be lived outside of the world of video games. - Anonymous

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          • #6
            I am getting a vibe....that Mercutio is Mercutio4ever!
            Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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            • #7
              Mercutio,

              First, in case nobody reads beyond this point, I want to say unequivocally that I have NEVER posted pornographic images on Mike's photoblog comments. Mike and I run the same photoblog software, and my comments have been attacked by porno-spam-bots. I suspect that this happened to Mike. and then the paranoia took over. There might be a slim possibility that he is talking about a time I collaged a photo of his with a page from a medical reference book, but if that is "gay porn" in his book, he needs to get out of the house a little more often.

              -------------------------------------------

              As prone as I might be to hijack an unrelated post and make it about me, I feel more than a bit uncomfortable when I am the subject from the beginning.

              I will try not to be overly defensive, because I really don't want my presence on this board to be about me and Mike. Until this moment I was quite happy with the idea that I might be able to make a fresh start here. But here goes:

              Mike was my best friend, a room mate, a witness at my wedding, and the godfather of my only child. When I first started to express doubts to him about the LDS religion, he became increasingly critical, angry and mean. He told me that my apostasy was causing him too much pain. Our friendship was over, but I just didn't know it yet. That was the backdrop of what was going on when I joined CG.

              I could go on (I just deleted a paragraph). My introduction to many of you coincided with the collapse of my faith, the betrayal of a best friend (though I accept some blame for this too), professional issues (I won't go into), and the family shit that any lifer-Mormon will experience if he or she decides to take a look at the world from the other side of faith.

              So I joined CG with all of this epic stuff going on, and something happened -- I actually started to have a really good time, and I enjoyed the community and I enjoyed the quality of the conversations, and I was having fun. So as weird at that may be, it is a strangeness that plenty of folks here understand. I caught the CG bug.

              When I got banished from CG I was really pissed. After the fog lifted, I realized I was just kind of sad that I could no longer participate. I wished that I could, and on three different occasions, there were topics that interested me enough that I invented a pseudonym so that I could join in. The 'characters' were never more than thinly veiled versions of me. It was never about fooling anyone. It was just about participation. That is why with the fourth 'character,' Rogan, I used my own real first name. That was supposed to be a good will token, a promise to behave decently, and put my REAL name and reputation out there, in spite of the hostile environment. Thanks to Mike's good sense in banning me there, Googling my real name doesn't result in a laundry list of taunts and slurs on CG.

              So yes, I had problems with the Crypt. I liked CG, but I had this sinking feeling that Mike was undermining my efforts to contribute from behind the crypt door. He was. When Mike accidentally left the door open, I took a look around. I didn't "download" more than 2000 messages. I did a text search for "robin" and "finderson" and copied those. The contents were sickening. I had joined CG for fun and to make friends, but it turned out that my one-time-best-friend was making me the butt of a giant joke, behind my back. People that treated me like a friend outside of the crypt were talking badly about me behind the closed door. That really sucked.

              -------------------------

              Enough of that.

              Gidget, I'm sorry that I give you a bad vibe. Maybe I won't after a bit. Honestly, I'm just a simple dad, the father of bright well adjusted nine-year-old, a content husband in a happy, devoted, 13-year-old marriage. I like to camp and hike and fish. I teach digital 3D modeling courses at an art school. My students think I am a pretty good teacher (though none have bothered to rate me yet on that 'rate-my-teacher' web page). My favorite shows are The Wire, 30 Rock, and The Office (which is getting better again after a dull 2nd season). I still call U2 my favorite band, even though that stopped being cool a long time ago, but I recently got a subscription to E-Music, which has a lot of really cool indie-label stuff.

              My point and my challenge to all -- see what happens when you take Mike Waters out of the Robin equation. I just don't have any animosity toward him any more. It wore me out and I'm done with it.

              So who art thou Mercutio?
              Last edited by RobinFinderson; 11-14-2008, 11:53 PM.

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              • #8
                PS: Mercutio, in posting that list, didn't you just post a bunch of stuff out of the Crypt? You better go back to CG and banish yourself from the crypt. Rules are rules, you know.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
                  I teach digital 3D modeling courses
                  Speaking of which, please stop using my name to promote your courses.
                  Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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                  • #10
                    First of all, who is Mercutio, anyway?

                    Second, I'll say this much about Robin. He and I have had our own little mini-spats, and I'll take credit for my share of the blame. I've not had problems with the man since. More than that, though, I think it would be wrong to ban somebody from this site on the basis of what they've done on other sites, so long as they are not breaking the rules here. I'd be content to wait until he does something reprehensible to kick him out.
                    τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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                    • #11
                      FWIW, as I have said elsewhere, I have never thought Mike's view of his history with Robin, though it maybe sincere, should be taken as authoritative. With that said, the list posted above gives some pause and refreshed my memory of some things. I accept some of what you are saying Robin but of course a lot of it is very self serving.

                      I feel the same way about you that I do about Mike. I have enjoyed you both when you behave normally and sincerely hope you don't jump off the deep end because you have both done it repeatedly and it is tiresome. Be good and contribute and in time you won't have to explain yourself to anyone.

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                      • #12
                        Robin, I don't know you at all. I was a latecomer to cougarguard, so what I do know comes through what I've read. But, as far as I'm concerned, this is a new forum, and there are probably others here like me with whom you have a blank slate. I hope this forum's other users will welcome you, me, and anyone else who logs on until we give them a reason not to.
                        "More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
                        -- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)

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                        • #13
                          AA, UD, Solon,

                          I appreciate the fair chance. Eventually you will see that I am like illegal Mexican immigration to Mike's Lou Dobbs -- I was accused of repeatedly illegally crossing the border with the purpose of destroying the country, and yes, I was willing to punch back when provoked, but in reality all I mostly wanted to do was mow your lawn.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Solon View Post
                            Robin, I don't know you at all. I was a latecomer to cougarguard, so what I do know comes through what I've read. But, as far as I'm concerned, this is a new forum, and there are probably others here like me with whom you have a blank slate. I hope this forum's other users will welcome you, me, and anyone else who logs on until we give them a reason not to.
                            Ditto. Let's just work on making this board interesting and intelligent and fun. GO UTES GO COUGS (today only... Next week it is only GO UTES!!!)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
                              Mercutio,

                              First, in case nobody reads beyond this point, I want to say unequivocally that I have NEVER posted pornographic images on Mike's photoblog comments. Mike and I run the same photoblog software, and my comments have been attacked by porno-spam-bots. I suspect that this happened to Mike. and then the paranoia took over. There might be a slim possibility that he is talking about a time I collaged a photo of his with a page from a medical reference book, but if that is "gay porn" in his book, he needs to get out of the house a little more often.

                              -------------------------------------------

                              As prone as I might be to hijack an unrelated post and make it about me, I feel more than a bit uncomfortable when I am the subject from the beginning.

                              I will try not to be overly defensive, because I really don't want my presence on this board to be about me and Mike. Until this moment I was quite happy with the idea that I might be able to make a fresh start here. But here goes:

                              Mike was my best friend, a room mate, a witness at my wedding, and the godfather of my only child. When I first started to express doubts to him about the LDS religion, he became increasingly critical, angry and mean. He told me that my apostasy was causing him too much pain. Our friendship was over, but I just didn't know it yet. That was the backdrop of what was going on when I joined CG.

                              I could go on (I just deleted a paragraph). My introduction to many of you coincided with the collapse of my faith, the betrayal of a best friend (though I accept some blame for this too), professional issues (I won't go into), and the family shit that any lifer-Mormon will experience if he or she decides to take a look at the world from the other side of faith.

                              So I joined CG with all of this epic stuff going on, and something happened -- I actually started to have a really good time, and I enjoyed the community and I enjoyed the quality of the conversations, and I was having fun. So as weird at that may be, it is a strangeness that plenty of folks here understand. I caught the CG bug.

                              When I got banished from CG I was really pissed. After the fog lifted, I realized I was just kind of sad that I could no longer participate. I wished that I could, and on three different occasions, there were topics that interested me enough that I invented a pseudonym so that I could join in. The 'characters' were never more than thinly veiled versions of me. It was never about fooling anyone. It was just about participation. That is why with the fourth 'character,' Rogan, I used my own real first name. That was supposed to be a good will token, a promise to behave decently, and put my REAL name and reputation out there, in spite of the hostile environment. Thanks to Mike's good sense in banning me there, Googling my real name doesn't result in a laundry list of taunts and slurs on CG.

                              So yes, I had problems with the Crypt. I liked CG, but I had this sinking feeling that Mike was undermining my efforts to contribute from behind the crypt door. He was. When Mike accidentally left the door open, I took a look around. I didn't "download" more than 2000 messages. I did a text search for "robin" and "finderson" and copied those. The contents were sickening. I had joined CG for fun and to make friends, but it turned out that my one-time-best-friend was making me the butt of a giant joke, behind my back. People that treated me like a friend outside of the crypt were talking badly about me behind the closed door. That really sucked.

                              -------------------------

                              Enough of that.

                              Gidget, I'm sorry that I give you a bad vibe. Maybe I won't after a bit. Honestly, I'm just a simple dad, the father of bright well adjusted nine-year-old, a content husband in a happy, devoted, 13-year-old marriage. I like to camp and hike and fish. I teach digital 3D modeling courses at an art school. My students think I am a pretty good teacher (though none have bothered to rate me yet on that 'rate-my-teacher' web page). My favorite shows are The Wire, 30 Rock, and The Office (which is getting better again after a dull 2nd season). I still call U2 my favorite band, even though that stopped being cool a long time ago, but I recently got a subscription to E-Music, which has a lot of really cool indie-label stuff.

                              My point and my challenge to all -- see what happens when you take Mike Waters out of the Robin equation. I just don't have any animosity toward him any more. It wore me out and I'm done with it.

                              So who art thou Mercutio?
                              I am the least of your worries. I give everyone a chance. In fact, I give them a lot of chances. I am glad you are here, and actually eager to see if you prove yourself to be a total nut job like everyone thinks you are (though I hoping for NOT total nut job). But I do believe you are worth a go here in this forum and I am looking forward to getting to know you and all the people I have had a chance to get familiar with on CG.
                              I am a philosophical Goldilocks, always looking for something neither too big nor too small, neither too hot nor too cold, something jussssst right. I'll send you a card from purgatory. - PAC

                              You know how President Hinckley said he doesn't worry about those who pray? The same can be said for men who are self-aware enough to know when there's a life to be lived outside of the world of video games. - Anonymous

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