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    Obama counters Mitt's "poor people" gaffe with his own stupid remark....

    “But for me as a Christian, it also coincides with Jesus’ teaching that, from to whom much is given, much shall be required.”
    Wow!

    Indirectly telling people that they are not Christian if they don't support his public policy is not only ludicrous, it's condescendingly arrogant.
    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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    • #3
      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
      I agree. The media is totally letting this thing blow over without a peep.
      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Moliere View Post
        I agree. The media is totally letting this thing blow over without a peep.
        Apparently the media isn't as offended by his ludicrous, condescendingly arrogant remark.

        I would be, though.

        The nice thing is that EPU can't say anything about it until February 4 at about 1PM.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
          Apparently the media isn't as offended by his ludicrous, condescendingly arrogant remark.

          I would be, though.

          The nice thing is that EPU can't say anything about it until February 4 at about 1PM.
          I was a bit blatantly over the top with my title and post. But I'm glad you agree with me.

          It is an interesting comment though and one that could use a little discussion. He's basically saying that his tax plan is in line with Christ's teachings. So one could infer that if you don't support his tax plan, then you don't support Christ or Christian teachings. Seems a bit arrogant (whether or not it is true).

          Maybe it's Obama's subtle way of calling Mitt (and Mormons) non-Christian
          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Moliere View Post
            I was a bit blatantly over the top with my title and post. But I'm glad you agree with me.

            It is an interesting comment though and one that could use a little discussion. He's basically saying that his tax plan is in line with Christ's teachings. So one could infer that if you don't support his tax plan, then you don't support Christ or Christian teachings. Seems a bit arrogant (whether or not it is true).

            Maybe it's Obama's subtle way of calling Mitt (and Mormons) non-Christian
            So does he think communism is christ-like?
            PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by creekster View Post
              So does he think communism is christ-like?
              Probably. I know Joseph Smith used that statement a few times (referring to the United Order?), but wasn't it more famously co-opted by Karl Marx?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by creekster View Post
                So does he think communism is christ-like?
                I have no idea. Government imposed wealth redistribution seems to fit his definition though. I'm not saying he's 100% wrong, just thought his invoking of Christianity was interesting....and condescending.
                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                  I have no idea. Government imposed wealth redistribution seems to fit his definition though.
                  We already live in a largely socialistic country, we just call it by another name. Institutional inertia will keep it moving in that direction without regard to the party affiliation of the occupant at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. The only thing that can be changed, and slightly at that, is the rate of acceleration. The vector remains unchanged and unchangeable.

                  Originally posted by Moliere
                  I'm not saying he's 100% wrong, just thought his invoking of Christianity was interesting....and condescending.
                  Perhaps. But it is a brilliant political strategy. If Mitt doesn't win the nomination it will be hilariously ironic to me that Pres. Obama will be the true 'family values' candidate instead of Newt. I can't wait to see the spin on that one.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                    I have no idea. Government imposed wealth redistribution seems to fit his definition though. I'm not saying he's 100% wrong, just thought his invoking of Christianity was interesting....and condescending.
                    It is less interesting when you consider that he was at a prayer breakfast. What else is he supposed to reference? Atheism?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                      It is less interesting when you consider that he was at a prayer breakfast. What else is he supposed to reference? Atheism?
                      WHat is a muslim doing at a Christian prayer service?



                      I know. Only joking.

                      So are you saying that he was giving the prayer? Otherwise why does he need to say that his political policies are requried by Christ? Is this some mandatory Prayer Breakfast rule I have never heard about?
                      PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                        Obama counters Mitt's "poor people" gaffe with his own stupid remark....



                        Wow!

                        Indirectly telling people that they are not Christian if they don't support his public policy is not only ludicrous, it's condescendingly arrogant.
                        Sounds like telling people they can't be good Mormons if they don't support conservative political candidates/initiatives.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by creekster View Post
                          WHat is a muslim doing at a Christian prayer service?



                          I know. Only joking.

                          So are you saying that he was giving the prayer? Otherwise why does he need to say that his political policies are requried by Christ? Is this some mandatory Prayer Breakfast rule I have never heard about?
                          I didn't say he was giving the prayer.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tim View Post
                            Sounds like telling people they can't be good Mormons if they don't support conservative political candidates/initiatives.
                            Exactly! Obama's remarks are just as offensive.
                            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                              I didn't say he was giving the prayer.
                              We are both confused becasue I dont understand why being at a prayer breakfast to discuss politics means you must reference Christ (or atheism, for that matter), unless you are giving a prayer; then I would expect a Shout Out to Deity.
                              PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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