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    For those interested in how effective steroids are in promoting mustle growth the following study is informative:

    Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men, Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2001 Dec;281(6):E1172-81.

    http://ajpendo.physiology.org/cgi/co...ll/281/6/E1172

    61 men from the ages of 18-35 were given weekly testosterone injections for 20 weeks. The top two groups recieved 300 mg and 600 mgs weekly (injections). The men had previous weighlifting experience but did zero strength training during the trial. Here is the average gain in lean muscle mass for the top two groups:

    Fat Free Mass by underwater weighing
    300 mg group-5.2kg (11.4lbs) increase
    600 mg group-7.9kg (17.38lbs) increase


    Fat Mass by underwater weighing
    300 mg group-.5kg (1.1lbs) decrease
    600 mg group-1.1kg (2.42lbs) decrease

    that's right over 17 pounds of muscle gain when they did no strength training. They also lost some fat.

    Side Effects:

    Adverse experiences and safety measures. Hemoglobin levels decreased significantly in men receiving the 50-mg dose but increased at the 600-mg dose; the changes in hemoglobin were positively correlated with testosterone concentrations (r = 0.66, P = 0.0001) (Table 7). Changes in plasma HDL cholesterol, in contrast, were negatively dependent on testosterone dose (P = 0.0049) and correlated with testosterone concentrations (r = -0.40, P = 0.0054). Total cholesterol, plasma low-density lipoprotein cholesterol, and triglyceride levels did not change significantly at any dose. Serum PSA, creatinine, bilirubin, alanine aminotransferase, and alkaline phosphatase did not change significantly in any group, but aspartate aminotransferase decreased significantly in the 25-mg group. Two men in the 25-mg group, five in the 50-mg group, three in the 125-mg group, seven in the 300-mg group, and two in the 600-mg group developed acne. One man receiving the 50-mg dose reported decreased ability to achieve erections.
    Last edited by pelagius; 05-08-2009, 09:49 PM.

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    I view steroids like a tanning beds: both give you a good head start on beginning your regimen.
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    • #3
      So you're saying everyone should start juicing asap? Cause that's what I'm reading.

      Well, if some guy on the intertubes says so....
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      • #4
        Originally posted by landpoke View Post
        So you're saying everyone should start juicing asap? Cause that's what I'm reading.
        Of course not ... I was only trying to say the HFN should be juicing. I'm a little mystified that you didn't reach that conclusion.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by pelagius View Post
          Of course not ... I was only trying to say the HFN should be juicing. I'm a little mystified that you didn't reach that conclusion.
          He is much, much fatter than me.
          There's no such thing as luck, only drunken invincibility. Make it happen.

          Tila Tequila and Juggalos, America’s saddest punchline since the South.

          Yesterday was Thursday, Thursday
          Today is Friday, Friday (Partyin’)

          Tomorrow is Saturday
          And Sunday comes afterwards

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          • #6
            So they were just getting injections of testosterone? Wow. Imagine if they stacked that with other anabolics and worked out. I understand the appeal. I could deal with acne.
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            • #7
              Where can a guy get a 300 mg dose for 20 weeks? Maybe one of the docs here can hook me up.
              Just try it once. One beer or one cigarette or one porno movie won't hurt. - Dallin H. Oaks

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