College Players Getting Robbed Blind?

[taekwondave]

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...th-six-figures

"A national college athletes' advocacy group and a sports management professor calculate in the report that if college sports shared their revenues the way pro sports do, the average Football Bowl Subdivision player would be worth $121,000 per year, while the average basketball player at that level would be worth $265,000."

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[taekwondave]

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[OrangeUte]

I'm tired of the talk that CFB players should get paid. They are students first and then athletes. A free education is their compensation, as well as high level coaching to prepare them for the NFL, should they be fortunate enough to be drafted.

[Top Ute]

I'm tired of the talk that CFB players should get paid. They are students first and then athletes. A free education is their compensation, as well as high level coaching to prepare them for the NFL, should they be fortunate enough to be drafted.

Collegiate players should be able to profit from their name and likeness. Put the money into a pool and divvy it up just like you would your Title IX budget sheet. Because before they're students or athletes, they're free citizens in this country and shouldn't have their identities (and the ability to profit from them) hijacked.

While it's true that the players are students first and athletes second, what about the flipside from an institutional standpoint? Why do we allow our schools to be profit-centers first, exploiters of youth second, when it comes to athletics -- a truly secondary effort in the real mission of a university.

[Surfah]

Collegiate players should be able to profit from their name and likeness. Put the money into a pool and divvy it up just like you would your Title IX budget sheet. Because before they're students or athletes, they're free citizens in this country and shouldn't have their identities (and the ability to profit from them) hijacked.

While it's true that the players are students first and athletes second, what about the flipside from an institutional standpoint? Why do we allow our schools to be profit-centers first, exploiters of youth second, when it comes to athletics -- a truly secondary effort in the real mission of a university.

Pat could you please list all of the schools that are "profit-centers" when it comes to athletics? Thanks.

[kccougar]

And how much is the full-ride scholarship worth?

[BoylenOver]

And how much is the full-ride scholarship worth?

Assuming the report is true and factual, not enough:

They also say that schools should pay for costs beyond the tuition, student fees and room and board covered by athletic scholarships. The report calculates the shortfall for the full cost of attending college -- when things such as clothing and emergency trips home are added in -- at $952 to $6,127, depending on the college. That leaves students on full athletic scholarships living below the poverty line at around 85 percent of the schools, the report claims, by comparing the value of the scholarship's room and board to the federal poverty guideline for a single individual.

Huma acknowledged that calculation does not take into account financial assistance students might get from home, or summer jobs, but he said most athletes are pressured to attend voluntary summer workouts, making it hard to get outside work.

When the estimated average worth of a FBS scholarship athlete is $120k per year, I doubt there's a school offering athletic scholarships that provides similar value.

[Top Ute]

Pat could you please list all of the schools that are "profit-centers" when it comes to athletics? Thanks.

Profit-centers in the idea that those working for the university are profiting immensely off the growth and popularity of college athletics (ADs, coaches, media partners, etc.), and largely off the efforts of those who receive the least*. I know full well that athletics is, at best, a break even proposition at almost all schools.

*-Yes, I know the value of an education, but in the short-term, that value pales in comparison to what the real value of a star scholarship athlete is.

[Katy Lied]

Just drop the draft age requirement, and let NFL teams draft anyone of any age. Boys who are talented enough for the big leagues can play directly for the NFL. If they aren't seasoned or good enough for the NFL out of high school, then let them go the collegiate route for room and board only.

[Blueintheface]

I'm tired of the talk that CFB players should get paid. They are students first and then athletes. A free education is their compensation, as well as high level coaching to prepare them for the NFL, should they be fortunate enough to be drafted.

Not to mention the fact that they don't even have to seek out liquid refreshment on the sidelines. A fine little shorty squirts it into their waiting mouth. How sweet is that?

[SeattleUte]

This is the biggest non-issue year after year. Most of these kids would be in dead end jobs, dead, or on drugs were it not for college sports. The elite players who don't need colleges can go to the pros anytime they want. The rest of them need the colleges a lot more than the colleges need them, and most of the colleges lose money on sports.

I'm not putting these kids who need the colleges down. It's about difficult circumstances and opportunity. I've seen many of them go on to be lawyers, judges, physicians, successful business people, etc. where otherwise they'd have had no chance.

If people like Frank Deford who misguededly think they're doing the kids a favor keep pushing this issue the colleges will just say to hell with it and dump big time spectator sports. Then the kids will be without the elite branding, the historical association of resourceful alumni with that branding and all that comes with it that makes college sports a uniquely big time and rewarding experience for kids who would otherwise never come close to that kind of stage. They'll be playing unglamorous minor league football, that will be the end of it for most of them, and they will be getting a lot less than they get now. The chance to become lawyers, judges, physicians, successful business people,e etc. will be greatly reduced. As it is, college athletics is a terrific bargain for the athletes.

This is also my pet peeve with people harping about football being dangerous. Shall we all keep driving cars? What kind of a world do these faux soccer fans think we live in (as they self-satisfiedly drive their Volvos to the soccer games they hardly understand or in their hearts much like)?

[Tone Loc]

This is the biggest non-issue year after year. Most of these kids would be in dead end jobs, dead, or on drugs were it not for college sports. The elite players who don't need colleges can go to the pros anytime they want. The rest of them need the colleges a lot more than the colleges need them, and most of the colleges lose money on sports.

I'm not putting these kids who need the colleges down. It's about difficult circumstances and opportunity. I've seen many of them go on to be lawyers, judges, physicians, successful business people, etc. where otherwise they'd have had no chance.

If people like Frank Deford who misguededly think they're doing the kids a favor keep pushing this issue the colleges will just say to hell with it and dump big time spectator sports. Then the kids will be without the elite branding, the historical association of resourceful alumni with that branding and all that comes with it that makes college sports a uniquely big time and rewarding experience for kids who would otherwise never come close to that kind of stage. They'll be playing unglamorous minor league football, that will be the end of it for most of them, and they will be getting a lot less than they get now. The chance to become lawyers, judges, physicians, successful business people,e etc. will be greatly reduced. As it is, college athletics is a terrific bargain for the athletes.

This is also my pet peeve with people harping about football being dangerous. Shall we all keep driving cars? What kind of a world do these faux soccer fans think we live in (as they self-satisfiedly drive their Volvos to the soccer games they hardly understand or in their hearts much like)?

Maybe the most racist post I have ever seen.

[SeattleUte]

Maybe the most racist post I have ever seen.

I don't care what you think. For what it's worth I say you're racist for assuming my post was about race.