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scottie
01-31-2011, 10:51 AM
Mormon Temple Movie Actor, Fred Hunting Removed From Film (http://www.salamandersociety.com/media/movies/templemovie/)

Question by Salamander Society: Why was Fred Hunting (Who played the role of Apostle John in the 1990 version of the Temple Film.) removed from the current film?

Answer by Church Employee: I don't know "for sure" why Fred Hunting's face was removed.

I know that he came out against the Church's position on same sex marriage during the recent California proposition. He signed a petition that was sent to the First Presidency, asking them to change their position on same gender attraction.

I have no idea if any Church discipline was taken "against him" for his position, or even if he a practicing member of the LDS Church. But the removal of his face took place sometime within the last couple of weeks - though they may have been working on it for a little while.

I think that's the most likely explanation as to why he was removed, though I've seen nothing official. But I suspect that was the cause.

Comment by Salamander Society: A Google search reveals that indeed a "Fred Hunting" signed RECONCILIATION PETITION REQUEST TO THE FIRST PRESIDENCY OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS which was delivered on 11/04/2010.

If this is true (btw, I doubt that it is), it's interesting to me that the church would go to the pains of "the removal of his face" -- I assume that means some digital changes to make Apostle John's face not look like Fred Hunting's -- based on Hunting's involvement in Prop 8 and/or a signature on a petition to the FP. Or is this simply a case of a change from Hunting's face to Jimmer's?

This is Fred Hunting:

http://www.salamandersociety.com/media/movies/templemovie/fred_hunting.jpg

Jeff Lebowski
01-31-2011, 10:55 AM
Because he signed a petition? :confused:

kccougar
01-31-2011, 10:57 AM
Because he signed a petition? :confused:

More likely at his request.

TripletDaddy
01-31-2011, 11:00 AM
A reason to go to the temple!!!!

How did they remove his face? Is it pixelated? IIRC, he only has one speaking line in the entire flick, and it is simply to introduce himself.

How cool would it be if the Church tipped its hat to Quentin Tarantino and gave the one spoken line the Beatrix Kiddo/Kill Bill "bleep" treatment? Followed by the red light/siren pre-existence flashback when Satan shows up.

"What are those robes you are wearing?"

"These are Hattori Hanzo robes."

"YOU LIE!!!!"


I would be interested in seeing the entire movie re-done in a Kill Bill style.

CardiacCoug
01-31-2011, 11:02 AM
I'm pretty sure he was a seminary teacher at my high school. Seemed a little bit effeminate -- wouldn't be surprised if he is gay.

Time to update the temple movies anyway and maybe this will provide the impetus.

kccougar
01-31-2011, 11:03 AM
A reason to go to the temple!!!!

How did they remove his face? Is it pixelated? IIRC, he only has one speaking line in the entire flick, and it is simply to introduce himself.

How cool would it be if the Church tipped its hat to Quentin Tarantino and gave the one spoken line the Beatrix Kiddo/Kill Bill "bleep" treatment? Followed by the red light/siren pre-existence flashback when Satan shows up.

"What are those robes you are wearing?"

"These are Hattori Hanzo robes."

"YOU LIE!!!!"



I would be interested in seeing the entire movie re-done in a Kill Bill style.

You really have to be looking in order to notice it.

TripletDaddy
01-31-2011, 11:07 AM
You really have to be looking in order to notice it.

Which version? Is he in Opera Satan or Gay Satan? I cant remember.

I'm all amped up to go the temple now, which is a good thing.

As long as they don't remove the prominently-placed BYU Cougar from the movie, I am fine.

LiveCoug
01-31-2011, 11:08 AM
You really have to be looking in order to notice it.

Wait, so it's true? You noticed it?

scottie
01-31-2011, 11:08 AM
You really have to be looking in order to notice it.

Are you confirming the change to Apostle John's face?

CardiacCoug
01-31-2011, 11:09 AM
Which version? Is he in Opera Satan or Gay Satan? I cant remember.

I'm all amped up to go the temple now, which is a good thing.

As long as they don't remove the prominently-placed BYU Cougar from the movie, I am fine.

Pretty sure he's in Blonde Eve version.

Surfah
01-31-2011, 11:11 AM
Pretty sure he's in Blonde Eve version.

Nope.

TripletDaddy
01-31-2011, 11:12 AM
More likely at his request.

This would be an odd precedent esp since actors generally don't own the rights to the movie.

I wonder what the scoop is here?

I had heard many a tale about the alleged homosexuality of the actor who portrayed Joseph Smith in Legacy. I dont if it is true or false, btw. While the Church did replace the movie, it still sells DVD copies. It hasnt appeared to attempt to excise him from the movie, although his role is obviously integral to the movie.

Donuthole
01-31-2011, 11:14 AM
Pretty sure he's in Blonde Eve version.
Or, as I call it, Rigoletto version.

http://img1.wantitall.co.za/images/ShowImage.aspx?ImageId=Rigoletto-A-Musical-Fantasy-Ringing-of-Truth-and-Filled-With-Mystery-and-Love%7C51lLQzGa8lL.jpg

Jeff Lebowski
01-31-2011, 11:14 AM
A reason to go to the temple!!!!

How did they remove his face? Is it pixelated? IIRC, he only has one speaking line in the entire flick, and it is simply to introduce himself.

How cool would it be if the Church tipped its hat to Quentin Tarantino and gave the one spoken line the Beatrix Kiddo/Kill Bill "bleep" treatment? Followed by the red light/siren pre-existence flashback when Satan shows up.

"What are those robes you are wearing?"

"These are Hattori Hanzo robes."

"YOU LIE!!!!"


I would be interested in seeing the entire movie re-done in a Kill Bill style.

Not a bad idea. I think a LOTR makeover would be interesting as well. Adam and Eve kicked out from the Shire, make a long journey through the lone and dreary world. Peter, James, and John play the role of Gandalf, Legolas, Gimli and guide them along. In the end they toss Satan into the flames of Mount Doom. It could work.

scottie
01-31-2011, 11:17 AM
I'm pretty sure he was a seminary teacher at my high school. Seemed a little bit effeminate -- wouldn't be surprised if he is gay.

Time to update the temple movies anyway and maybe this will provide the impetus.

I just IMDBed Fred Hunting and found this post:

Brother Fred??
by janeece8 (Tue Aug 3 2004 08:07:22)

Did anyone else have Fred Hunting as their Seminary teacher back at SHS? He was mine for two years and I loved him. I wonder where he is now. Any thoughts or suggestions?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0403105/board/thread/10631004

Uncle Ted
01-31-2011, 11:17 AM
Not a bad idea. I think a LOTR makeover would be interesting as well. Adam and Eve kicked out from the Shire, make a long journey through the lone and dreary world. Peter, James, and John play the role of Gandalf, Legolas, Gimli and guide them along. In the end they toss Satan into the flames of Mount Doom. It could work.

:applause:

Yes, changing up the temple movie has increased temple attendance in the past. Doing a LOTR makeover might actually create lines out the door.

Edit: The church really needs to do something with its temple movie. Only a 1.7/10 on IMDb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064697/

UtahDan
01-31-2011, 11:18 AM
Or, as I call it, Rigoletto version.

http://img1.wantitall.co.za/images/ShowImage.aspx?ImageId=Rigoletto-A-Musical-Fantasy-Ringing-of-Truth-and-Filled-With-Mystery-and-Love%7C51lLQzGa8lL.jpg

Lol. I telemarketed for Feature Films for Families one summer. That was interesting.

CardiacCoug
01-31-2011, 11:21 AM
Nope.

Yeah, it's been a while since my last visit so I'll defer to you on this one. :)

CardiacCoug
01-31-2011, 11:24 AM
I just IMDBed Fred Hunting and found this post:


http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0403105/board/thread/10631004

Yeah, that is definitely the guy that taught seminary at Springville High for a few years. I didn't remember his name.

Surfah
01-31-2011, 11:25 AM
Yeah, it's been a while since my last visit so I'll defer to you on this one. :)

I checked a website. :ashamed:

UtahDan
01-31-2011, 11:26 AM
I checked a website. :ashamed:

First that homo-erotic sig-pic and now this? What is happening to you, man?

Surfah
01-31-2011, 11:26 AM
First that homo-erotic sig-pic and now this? What is happening to you, man?

Would you like me to make you a sig-pic?

TripletDaddy
01-31-2011, 11:27 AM
Would you like me to make you a sig-pic?

What program do you use to make these things? I wish I had even basic photoshop skills. I need to take a class. It would really open up my online material, esp with Spring Sweeps coming up.

Surfah
01-31-2011, 11:30 AM
What program do you use to make these things? I wish I had even basic photoshop skills. I need to take a class. It would really open up my online material, esp with Spring Sweeps coming up.

I use Gimp for all of my photo editing. It's free and just as powerful as Photoshop in most aspects. I had to learn how to use it for work. Pretty much self taught and if I need something I can find lots of tutorials on the web, especially on YouTube to help me out.

Download it and try it out.

TripletDaddy
01-31-2011, 11:31 AM
I use Gimp for all of my photo editing. It's free and just as powerful as Photoshop in most aspects. I had to learn how to use it for work. Pretty much self taught and if I need something I can find lots of tutorials on the web, especially on YouTube to help me out.

Download it and try it out.

Gimp?

Sounds limited in its functionality.

Uncle Ted
01-31-2011, 11:34 AM
Gimp?

Sounds limited in its functionality.

GIMP is short for GNU Image Manipulation Program and, of course, GNU is short for GNU's Not Unix.

kccougar
01-31-2011, 11:36 AM
Which version? Is he in Opera Satan or Gay Satan? I cant remember.

I'm all amped up to go the temple now, which is a good thing.

As long as they don't remove the prominently-placed BYU Cougar from the movie, I am fine.

It's the blonde eve one.

Surfah
01-31-2011, 11:37 AM
GIMP is short for GNU Image Manipulation Program and, of course, GNU is short for GNU's Not Unix.

Do you know when 2.8 is going to be released?

Surfah
01-31-2011, 11:37 AM
It's the blonde eve one.

Then the Salamander Society website was wrong. Sheesh. Who can you trust anymore?

kccougar
01-31-2011, 11:37 AM
Wait, so it's true? You noticed it?

Yes. It's now a diffferent guy.

Uncle Ted
01-31-2011, 11:38 AM
Do you know when 2.8 is going to be released?

No idea.

TripletDaddy
01-31-2011, 11:39 AM
Yes. It's now a diffferent guy.

This reminds me of George Lucas taking out the old Anakin Skywalker from the Return of the Jedi finale and replacing him with the green ghost of Hayden Christensen. :mad:

Goatnapper'96
01-31-2011, 11:47 AM
Yes. It's now a diffferent guy.

John returned to the St George Temple and demanded he be represented by a non-POOFTUH!

To think the ALUFs amongst us were enjoying the Rafeal Aurajo tatoo photoshoped out event.....now the deep believers must reconcile another very strange effort to ensure the climate of perceived perfection and purity. BYU IS NOT THE MORMON CHURCH! Someone cue SeattleUte......

Somewhat off topic but along a similar cultural vein, I know the guy who bought the original Lake Pointe Chapel. He tells me that the history of the chapel is that the bricks were stolen from the location of the mine that is now Kennecot. The good saints were torn over whether or not they should dedicate the Lake Pointe Chapel. The mormon culture's internal stress between perfection and practicality is one of the most interesting aspects of our people.