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    What university is the real quarterback U?

    BYU lays claim, but obviously its contentious.

    I'm looking for some sort of statistical ranking out there but haven't found one w/ basic Google searches. Maybe one of you geniuses can.

    Off the top of my head (and in no order) I'd say:

    Stanford - Jim Plunkett, John Elway, Trent Edwards, Luck.....
    Michigan - Jim Harbaugh, Tom Brady, Chad Henne.....
    BC - Matt Ryan, Matt Hasselebeck, Doug Flutie...
    UCLA - Aikman, Bono, McNown....
    USC - Palmer, Sanchez, Leinart, Cassel (enjoying the irony of Cassel turning out to be the better NFL QB)....
    BYU - Young, McMahon, Detmer, Beck, Hall, Wilson, Sheide, Nielsen (Bosco, but for injuries), Doman
    Utah - Mitchell, Smith, Lance Rice. Oh, forgot Fouts.
    Washington - Brunnell, Moon, Chandler.....
    Notre Dame - Montana, Mirer, Quinn, Clausen....
    Purdue - Orton, Brees, Everett....

    This is purely anecdotal (and I'm sure there are lots I'm not thinking of) but I find it interesting that more great QBs haven't come out of the SEC and the Big 12. Also there are a lot of programs conspicuously missing great QBs. Like Nebraska, Penn St (Kerry Collins - but ever a single pro-bowl caliber QB anyone can remember?), Ohio St, Alabama (since Namath has 'Bama had a pro-bowl caliber QB?).

    What and who am I missing? And am I wrong in thinking that over time the PAC 10 and Big 10 have fed far more impact QBs into the NFL ranks than the SEC, ACC and Big 12?
    Last edited by oxcoug; 01-09-2011, 12:37 PM.
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    Originally posted by oxcoug View Post
    BYU lays claim, but obviously its contentious.

    I'm looking for some sort of statistical ranking out there but haven't found one w/ basic Google searches. Maybe one of you geniuses can.

    Off the top of my head (and in no order) I'd say:

    Stanford - Jim Plunkett, John Elway, Trent Edwards, Luck.....
    Michigan - Jim Harbaugh, Tom Brady, Chad Henne.....
    BC - Matt Ryan, Matt Hasselebeck...
    UCLA - Aikman, Bono, McNown....
    USC - Palmer, Leinart, Cassel (enjoying the irony of Cassel turning out to be the better NFL QB)....
    BYU - Young, McMahon, Detmer, Beck, Hall, Wilson, Sheide, Nielsen (Bosco, but for injuries), Doman
    Utah - Mitchell, Smith, Lance Rice. Oh, forgot Fouts.
    Washington - Brunnell, Moon, Chandler.....
    Notre Dame - Montana, Mirer, Quinn, Clausen....
    Purdue - Orton, Brees....

    This is purely anecdotal (and I'm sure there are lots I'm not thinking of) but I find it interesting that more great QBs haven't come out of the SEC and the Big 12. Also there are a lot of programs conspicuously missing great QBs. Like Nebraska, Penn St (Kerry Collins - but ever a single pro-bowl caliber QB anyone can remember?), Ohio St, Alabama (since Namath has 'Bama had a pro-bowl caliber QB?).

    What and who am I missing? And am I wrong in thinking that over time the PAC 10 and Big 10 have fed far more impact QBs into the NFL ranks than the SEC, ACC and Big 12?
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    • #3
      It's tough to think of too many schools who have had 3 or more solid NFL quarterbacks.

      Miami had Kelly, Kosar, and Testaverde, and that might be the best trio from any school.

      Washington had Warren Moon, Mark Brunell, and Chris Chandler. Not a bad trio.

      Oregon had Fouts, Chris Miller, and Bill Musgrave. Also Akili Smith.

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      • #4
        In the last 40 years, BYU probably has the edge over all other programs because of the '80s and late 70s. Most recently it seems USC is probably QB U.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
          It's tough to think of too many schools who have had 3 or more solid NFL quarterbacks.

          Miami had Kelly, Kosar, and Testaverde, and that might be the best trio from any school.

          Washington had Warren Moon, Mark Brunell, and Chris Chandler. Not a bad trio.

          Oregon had Fouts, Chris Miller, and Bill Musgrave. Also Akili Smith.

          Yeah you and Surfah are right - Miami was the big I was leaving out. Miami and BYU are similar in that since the 1980s neither school has sent a pro-bowl QB to the NFL. Actually... Washington is almost the same way. Geez, and Stanford. At least until Luck pans out.
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          • #6
            Seems like a lot of recent QBs have come from nontraditional QB schools. Vanderbilt, Miami Ohio, Cal, Syracuse, va tech. Other than USC, the 2000s dont seem to have included multiple QBs from another school

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              Originally posted by OrangeUte View Post
              Seems like a lot of recent QBs have come from nontraditional QB schools. Vanderbilt, Miami Ohio, Cal, Syracuse, va tech. Other than USC, the 2000s dont seem to have included multiple QBs from another school

              Delaware.... Northern Illinois (or wherever Romo came from)...yeah there have been more than a few of these.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by oxcoug View Post
                Purdue - Orton, Brees....
                Jim Everett also played at Purdue.

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                  Alabama produced Bart Starr, Joe Namath and Ken Stabler.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                    Jim Everett also played at Purdue.
                    And Bob Griese
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                    • #11
                      Also, don't forget about Virgil Carter for BYU. He had a couple of good seasons with the Bears and Bengals.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                        Alabama produced Bart Starr, Joe Namath and Ken Stabler.
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                        I got to meet Johnny Unitas when I was in high school. My dad and I drove down to Macon, Georgia to a civic center baseball card show where he was signing autographs for a fee. I think it was $10. We paid for two autographs, but really it was just to meet him. Great guy, and though he was before my time, I knew all of my dad's stories about how great he was, so I felt the honor of the moment. I even felt a tinge of remorse when he died because of that personal contact with him.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                          GOOD GRAVY! Three of the best.

                          I got to meet Johnny Unitas when I was in high school. My dad and I drove down to Macon, Georgia to a civic center baseball card show where he was signing autographs for a fee. I think it was $10. We paid for two autographs, but really it was just to meet him. Great guy, and though he was before my time, I knew all of my dad's stories about how great he was, so I felt the honor of the moment. I even felt a tinge of remorse when he died because of that personal contact with him.
                          I would have liked to had the chance to meet Unitas. Like yours, every story I've heard about him is that he left a positive impression on those who met him.

                          I also love Abraham Simpson's comment about Unitas - "There's a haircut you can set your watch to!"
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                          • #14
                            To be "quarterback U," why consider whether the NFL success of the players?

                            Per that definition, BYU should discount Ty Detmer and truthfully most of their QBs..was Gifford Nielsen really a good NFL QB? he was basically a back up his whole career and didnt last very long. Same with Robbie Bosco, Marc Wilson and most everyone except Jim and Steve. Utah should discount Alex Smith's college performance because he sucks in the NFL.

                            These schools that gloss themselves "tailback U" or "quarterback U" do so because the success their players have in college, not necessarily because the players then go on to be great NFL players (although there is often correlation).

                            As to the question, Miami co-opted the term "Quarterback U" and most college football folks would probably recognize Miami as the holder of such a title. Do people refer to BYU as "quaterback U?" I have heard BYU called a "quarterback factory," and seem to recall a poster of LaVell standing in some factory that was mass producing quarterbacks. I dont really recall many people (outside of maybe BYU fans) calling BYU "quarterback U," although there probably have been some.

                            In the past 6 or so years, I noticed some SC pundits trying to give SC that title (not many schools have won 2 Heismans at the QB position...in fact, besides Miami and SC, anyone else?) but SC has always called itself Tailback U, its recent string of QB success notwithstanding. In the history of college football, SC has not really been known for its long pedigree of All American QBs, so I think the recent gloss is way premature.

                            I know Penn State calls itself "linebacker U," which seems to make some sense, as well.
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