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    Breaking Dawn (No spoilers)

    I finally got a chance to read the 4th book in the Twilight series: Breaking Dawn. Here is my brief review. Like all the books, Meyer's strong point is her storytelling. Despite the flaws you want to turn the page and find out what happens next. By that standard the 4th book is successful and ultimately I think that it is the correct standard for this series.

    Like the other books, this is not a book that you want reflect on very deeply. It doesn't hold up well to literary scrutiny: poor character development, plot holes, character arcs that are developed for a few chapters and ignored, inadequate "mythological" back story for Bella's (the main characters) role, etc, etc.

    Also, I think the Mormonness of the 4th book is more apparent. For a **spoiler full** review about the Mormon themes see here:

    http://www.timesandseasons.org/index...n-is-breaking/
    Last edited by pelagius; 11-22-2008, 08:55 PM.
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    You must be pretty comfortable in your manhood to post that.

    Our 13-yr-old daughter told us that the girl that sits next to her in English class said that she cries herself to sleep every night because "Edward isn't real".
    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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    • #3
      I made it through half of the first book before deciding it was absolute rubbish. From what I've heard of the 4th book, you must be extremely secure to admit to liking it, as even a large number of the brainless teens hated it because of the ridiculous ending.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        You must be pretty comfortable in your manhood to post that.
        Well, I was able to 3 reps of one arm dumbell rows at 170 pounds when I took a break from reading it on Friday.

        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        Our 13-yr-old daughter told us that the girl that sits next to her in English class said that she cries herself to sleep every night because "Edward isn't real".
        I'm sure your daughter has room to talk in terms of the ridiculous nature of such behavior. I am not sure that people (like you and me) who start a sports discussion board our really much that different than those who cry over Edward.
        Last edited by pelagius; 11-23-2008, 12:47 PM.

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          Originally posted by woot View Post
          I made it through half of the first book before deciding it was absolute rubbish. From what I've heard of the 4th book, you must be extremely secure to admit to liking it, as even a large number of the brainless teens hated it because of the ridiculous ending.
          I liked the ending for the most part ... I want to stay away from spoilers but I thought the ending is really where the Mormon themes really came together.

          By the way that's a nice rhetorical strategy: "you must be extermely secure to admit liking it" ... nice, I can appreciate that.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by pelagius View Post
            Well, I was able 3 reps of one arm dumbell rows at 170 pounds.
            Whoa. That's a gun show right there.

            Hey, what happened to your "creepy" avatar?
            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              Whoa. That's a gun show right there.

              Hey, what happened to your "creepy" avatar?
              I was feeling bad for SU; the reversion is just a way to help him feel relevant.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by pelagius View Post
                I liked the ending for the most part ... I want to stay away from spoilers but I thought the ending is really where the Mormon themes really came together.

                By the way that's a nice rhetorical strategy: "you must be extermely secure to admit liking it" ... nice, I can appreciate that.
                Mormon themes? That makes me wonder what your wedding night was like. Sheesh. I frankly wonder about Stephanie Meyer's upbringing after hearing about that ending.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by woot View Post
                  Mormon themes? That makes me wonder what your wedding night was like. Sheesh. I frankly wonder about Stephanie Meyer's upbringing after hearing about that ending.
                  I get it, you didn't like the first book. You think anyone that does is mindless. Not sure there is anything to discuss. You've made your pov clear. I am hardly a great apologist for the books but Meyer does some things well and I like to give her credit for those things.

                  There are definite Mormon themes in the 4th book. You haven't read the 4th book so you are hardly in a position to comment and question their existence.
                  Last edited by pelagius; 11-23-2008, 04:14 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by pelagius View Post
                    I get it, you didn't like the first book. You think anyone that does is mindless. Not sure there is anything to discuss. You've made your pov clear. I am hardly a great apologist for the books but Meyer does some things well and I like to give her credit for those things.

                    There are definite Mormon themes in the 4th book. You haven't read the 4th book so you are hardly in a position to comment and question their existence.
                    I have no doubt that all 4 books are riddled with Mormon stuff; it's just that I couldn't imagine a more absurd and disturbing ending for a book than the one contained in Breaking Dawn, particularly when contrasted with the PG love story and vegetarian, sparkly vampires that she worked so hard to create. I assume you know to what I'm referring so we don't have to get into spoilers. Maybe it worked a lot better in context, but it seems like one of the more fridge-nuking moments in literary history to an outsider.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by woot View Post
                      I have no doubt that all 4 books are riddled with Mormon stuff; it's just that I couldn't imagine a more absurd and disturbing ending for a book than the one contained in Breaking Dawn, particularly when contrasted with the PG love story and vegetarian, sparkly vampires that she worked so hard to create. I assume you know to what I'm referring so we don't have to get into spoilers. Maybe it worked a lot better in context, but it seems like one of the more fridge-nuking moments in literary history to an outsider.
                      I actually have no idea what you are taking about. I did not find anything in the ending disturbing or absurd (although I can see why some fans were disappointed). But yes, you should not go into the details because this is a spoiler free thread.

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                      • #12
                        Justin Furstenfeld, the lead singer from Blue October, did a series of acoustic sets with the author of those books. I don't care about the books, but I'm a big BO fan. They are an odd pairing, to be sure.

                        "Ugly Side"
                        [youtube]T2kfkmIRM5A[/youtube]

                        "Hate Me"
                        [youtube]uUf1JX7wXa8[/youtube]

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