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    Ute Conference football party

    I've been coaching a Ute Conference (Little League) football team for 7 years.

    We have an end of season party for the kids every year. We put together a team highlight video and then give a short talk about each boy and present them with an award(s) for their efforts during the season. When they were younger we gave them trophies, now we give team T-shirts.

    Anyway, we've had the party at the Skybox Sports grill/bar (at the Gateway) several times. They have a large movie screen, and reserved section in the back for the video and there is enough room for the families of all the team members (removed from all the other customers). The restaurant also has a large section dedicated to video games, air hockey tables, basketball and football tossing games, and things the kids like to run around and do together.

    This year one of the new kid's father wrote an e-mail addressed to all the parents indicating that because the Skybox serves alcohol... he thinks we should find a different place.

    We have tried having the party at people's houses but it is a lot to ask to put that many people in one place and make everyone comfortable. The kids have indicated that they like the Skybox parties better.

    The kids all have to pass the bar area to get to the reserved section in the back.

    Not all the kids on the team are LDS, probably about 70 percent are.

    Some other parents have now written to me and want me to tell the new kids father to pound sand.

    I don't have a problem with the bar area. It's not like I'm gonna be knocking back any brews during the party.

    What do you think?
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  • #2
    You send out a polite email saying that in the past at a home of a team member or other spot and they usually don't work due to size constraints. That you have already reserved the Skybox and that is where it will be this year. Then at the end you suggest that there is a year until the next team party and if someone can find a place that has similar room and audio/visual equipment they should jump on it for next year.
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    • #3
      There are two options here:

      1. Teach your children to fear the very sight of alcohol and run from it
      2. Teach your children that restaurants serve alcohol, take your seat, order, eat your food, enjoy your evening.

      I choose option #2.
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      • #4
        I would move it to your house and then make sure there is plenty of booze available, on display, for the parents of the non-LDS kids.
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        • #5
          Do these families eat at Applebees, Olive Garden or any number of other restaurants? Do they know you can buy beer at the grocery store?
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          • #6
            I hadn't even thought that some of the parents do order drinks... Now that Falafel brought that up... I do remember a couple of the fathers walking around with big draft beers in the past. That's probably going to put this new kid's dad through the roof... if he even decides to let his kid attend.

            Good advice here. I agree with what has been written.

            I don't have a very good barometer of LDS culture in the SLC Valley. I grew up in Denver where this would never be a problem.
            Last edited by Devildog; 10-26-2010, 10:13 AM.
            "We should remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school."
            -Thucydides

            "Study strategy over the years and achieve the spirit of the warrior. Today is victory over yourself of yesterday; tomorrow is your victory over lesser men."
            -Miyamoto Musashi

            Si vis pacem, para bellum

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            • #7
              The first year I coached (1989?) we had the year-end banquet at the head coach's stake center.

              That location should be equally 'wrong'. I am certain this guy wouldn't see the issue.

              It sounds to me as if he is of the "...if they sell something I disagree with, I won't support the establishment" mindset.

              Now my son is playing, I am pretty sure he is the only lds kid on the team. We had a fundraiser Comedy Night at a local bar/nightclub, and our year-end banquet will be at a roller rink. Both serve copious amounts of alcohol. Neither bother me or my wife. We had a great time at the comedy club, and look forward to having a great time at the banquet.

              Just because something is available doesn't mean one has to consume it. I am with TripletDaddy on this one. It is far better to physically teach a child how to make a choice than it is to pretend the choice doesn't exist.

              All of our grocery stores up here have very impressive wine sections, and if either or both ballot initiatives pass next week, the groc stores will be able to sell hard liquor as well (the way they can in most states...).

              Does that mean I will no longer be able to purchase from these stores simply because they also vend liquor? Of course not, the idea is absurd!

              Chances are this guy won't come anyway. The only person who loses in that situation is his kid.

              For good measure, you should offer to buy the first round...:rockon1:

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              • #8
                Everyone that has posted seems to agree.

                It also looks like everyone that has posted lives outside the SLC Valley.
                "We should remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school."
                -Thucydides

                "Study strategy over the years and achieve the spirit of the warrior. Today is victory over yourself of yesterday; tomorrow is your victory over lesser men."
                -Miyamoto Musashi

                Si vis pacem, para bellum

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Devildog View Post
                  Everyone that has posted seems to agree.

                  It also looks like everyone that has posted lives outside the SLC Valley.
                  As one who lives in the Salt Lake Valley, I say have the team party as planned. If the parent doesn't want to attend or doesn't want his kid to attend, so be it. But it should be made clear to his son that he'll miss out on a lot of fun because his dad is a weenie.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Devildog View Post
                    Everyone that has posted seems to agree.

                    It also looks like everyone that has posted lives outside the SLC Valley.
                    I would just add that though I agree this parent is being unreasonable, I still think it is a good idea to give him an explanation and to be cordial about it.

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                    • #11
                      What did the father really expect? It is UTE Conference football afterall.

                      Oh man, sometimes this stuff just writes itself.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                        I would just add that though I agree this parent is being unreasonable, I still think it is a good idea to give him an explanation and to be cordial about it.
                        I agree. I think the impulse to tell the guy to stick it is justifiable, but the kids are the ones that ultimately suffer.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Devildog View Post
                          Everyone that has posted seems to agree.

                          It also looks like everyone that has posted lives outside the SLC Valley.
                          I live in the UC. Tell the parent that there are strict laws in place to ensure that alcohol is never sold to minors. Nothing to worry about.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                            I live in the UC. Tell the parent that there are strict laws in place to ensure that alcohol is never sold to minors. Nothing to worry about.
                            Lol.

                            I'm with the group in this one too. Politely explain to the father that it is not changing and why. Let him make the choice as to whether or not he will come with his kid, and then be genuinely nice to the kid regardless.
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