Perspective on Hill

[NorthShoreCoug]

Hill came to BYU as the secondary coach for the 2006 season and did wonders with the footwork and other fundamentals of our defensive backs. IMO, he was a very good secondary coach. However, in retrospect, his success led him to get promoted to a position that he wasn't capable of excelling at.

I'm a bit surprised at the timing of his firing, but my best understanding is that he probably deserved it. Having said that, I genuinely wish him good luck and appreciate the good work he did, particularly in the first two or three years here.

[MarkGrace]

If he said he was fine going back to the secondary, I wonder why Bronco didn't consider it?

The thing that always rubs me wrong about him is the number of conflicts he seems to get in with players. I know it takes a certain mentality to be a football coach, but it seems like relatively serious personality conflicts have happened with way too many players.

[NorthShoreCoug]

If he said he was fine going back to the secondary, I wonder why Bronco didn't consider it?

The thing that always rubs me wrong about him is the number of conflicts he seems to get in with players. I know it takes a certain mentality to be a football coach, but it seems like relatively serious personality conflicts have happened with way too many players.

Yea, when I heard he offered to stay on as secondary coach, my initial reaction was a bit surprising that they didn't let him, given his success at that spot. But as I thought about it, I figured it was probably a combination of the on-the-field product and his abrasiveness that got him fired at this point, and while the on-the-field product might be acceptable by changing him back to secondary coach, the abrasiveness probably wouldn't.

[Sizzle]

If he said he was fine going back to the secondary, I wonder why Bronco didn't consider it?

The thing that always rubs me wrong about him is the number of conflicts he seems to get in with players. I know it takes a certain mentality to be a football coach, but it seems like relatively serious personality conflicts have happened with way too many players.

I think you answered your own question in the second paragraph. He wasn't cut out to be a D-Coordinator. Having that authority taken away, when it is possible/probable that a few players already had issues respecting him, a demotion isn't going to do anything but hurt in that regard.

[jay santos]

Where I'm confused is that end of last year especially bowl game is best our secondary has looked in a long time (ever?). Bronco has complete faith in Hill, turns playcalling over, doesn't attend defensive meetings. A few weeks ago after Washington he expresses confidence in Hill. Then boom he's fired. Shoganai must be right. More to the story.

[creekster]

The only perspective I want on hill is from far, far away, fading into a vanishing point on the horizon.

[cougjunkie]

I have heard on more than one occasion that Hill rubbed people the wrong way. I know Chad Lewis went in and asked Hill one day if he would mind participating in a charity event when Hill said "I am here to coach football, not dick around playing golf". He also never went to any of the get togethers organzed by Bronco or by Broncos wife. He was kind of a loaner and really had a me against the world attitude.

When you act like that you are not doing yourself any favors and the first time you slip up nobody is going to bat for you.

Not to mention the guy could not even land his own nephew. He was a horrible recruiter, we had our offensive coaches meeting with defensive players because Bronco wanted to keep Hill away from them during the recruiting process.

[Top Ute]

I have heard on more than one occasion that Hill rubbed people the wrong way. I know Chad Lewis went in and asked Hill one day if he would mind participating in a charity event when Hill said "I am here to coach football, not dick around playing golf". He also never went to any of the get togethers organzed by Bronco or by Broncos wife. He was kind of a loaner and really had a me against the world attitude.

When you act like that you are not doing yourself any favors and the first time you slip up nobody is going to bat for you.

Not to mention the guy could not even land his own nephew. He was a horrible recruiter, we had our offensive coaches meeting with defensive players because Bronco wanted to keep Hill away from them during the recruiting process.

Did Hill have a designated recruiting area? I know he's got ties to NoCal -- that's not an area BYU can afford to have a substandard recruiter.

[cougjunkie]

Did Hill have a designated recruiting area? I know he's got ties to NoCal -- that's not an area BYU can afford to have a substandard recruiter.

No he didn't that is what is so weird. Bronco would send Nick Howell the inside linebackers coach over Jaime. Jaime rarely recruited guys nor did he have a specific area.

[byu71]

Word is some players and parents are happy about Hill's firing. Degrading and difficult for players was the word.

Do you think Bronco talked to him about this and he just kept ignoring him.

[OSUCougar]

Word is some players and parents are happy about Hill's firing. Degrading and difficult for players was the word.

Do you think Bronco talked to him about this and he just kept ignoring him.

Are our players just a bunch of "Nancies" or was he really pretty abusive? Football coaches usually do a lot of yelling and getting on players who mess up, but was he overly abusive? I hate to think our players are so soft that they can't take a little "fire" from someone.