Good heavens, don't give her another chance

[Jeff Lebowski]

You can't make this stuff up:

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50...kevin.html.csp

Heartbreaking.

[il Padrino Ute]

This kind of thing really pisses me off. Why the hell would the state endanger the lives of children by returning them to anyone, be it a parent, guardian, foster parent, etc., who tried to injure, let alone kill them? I don't give a damn if she is bi-polar; she shouldn't be allowed to be near her children.

The cops should have done everyone a favor and put a bullet in the middle of her forehead.

[Levin]

The cops should have done everyone a favor and put a bullet in the middle of her forehead.

This sentiment is itself a sign of ill mental health.

Of course the children should not be with her. But the mother is clearly suffering beyond your comprehension. She needs an incredible amount of help, not a bullet in her brain.

[il Padrino Ute]

This sentiment is itself a sign of ill mental health.

Of course the children should not be with her. But the mother is clearly suffering beyond your comprehension. She needs an incredible amount of help, not a bullet in her brain.

Please. I understand plenty about mental illness, but I do not tolerate anyone who would harm a child. Apparently, you do.

[woot]

Please. I understand plenty about mental illness, but I do not tolerate anyone who would harm a child. Apparently, you do.

Are you saying that there's something wrong with Levin because he doesn't want to put a bullet in this lady's brain? That was a really weird situation for an argument reversal.

[il Padrino Ute]

Are you saying that there's something wrong with Levin because he doesn't want to put a bullet in this lady's brain? That was a really weird situation for an argument reversal.

No. I'm saying that anyone who would harm a child deserves to die.

Edit: On 2nd thought, perhaps I was saying there is something wrong with Levin, as he feels there is something wrong with me. I don't apologize for making my stance and if he wants to make assumptions about me, he should be prepared for reciprocity.

[SloanHater]

No. I'm saying that anyone who would harm a child deserves to die.

Edit: On 2nd thought, perhaps I was saying there is something wrong with Levin, as he feels there is something wrong with me. I don't apologize for making my stance and if he wants to make assumptions about me, he should be prepared for reciprocity.

Agreed. Also anyone that commits adultery, steals, and draws caricatures of the Prophet.

[il Padrino Ute]

Agreed. Also anyone that commits adultery, steals, and draws caricatures of the Prophet.

You're quite a bit more harsh than I.

[LA Ute]

If she's bipolar and acts this way when off her meds than there's no way she should have custody of, or unsupervised access to, her kids.

[SloanHater]

You're quite a bit more harsh than I.

Abraham is just lucky I wasn't there!

[SeattleUte]

I think all Levin is saying is he's opposed to execution style killings by police of untried defendants.

It's not him who has something wrong with him.

[Levin]

Please. I understand plenty about mental illness, but I do not tolerate anyone who would harm a child. Apparently, you do.

If tolerate means that I don't think people who would harm a child should be summarily executed, yes, you're right. Especially those with mental health issues, and are therefore less culpable, then yes, you're especially right.

Your sentiment is so extreme it's hard for me to understand.

I've known many people in my life who have harmed their children, even physically abused them -- my grandpa was one. I'm very grateful he was not executed by the police, and so are his very children.

There's no room for mercy, forgiveness, reconciliation in your position. And there's most especially not any room for justice, even though that can be the only possible principle you could possibly be trying to uphold. There's no justice in summarily executing anybody who harms a child. Yes, harming children is abhorrent; but those who do should not be summarily executed. That's not justice; it's murderous totalitarianism -- ironically the ideology your "get off my lawn" life attitude most abhors.

That's all I'll say about this, as because you have insisted on your position that you think the police should have murdered her, it's clear no good can come from this discussion.

[il Padrino Ute]

I think all Levin is saying is he's opposed to execution style killings by police of untried defendants.

It's not him who has something wrong with him.

Nor is there anything wrong with me, unless you want to be judgmental.

[il Padrino Ute]

If tolerate means that I don't think people who would harm a child should be summarily executed, yes, you're right. Especially those with mental health issues, and are therefore less culpable, then yes, you're especially right.

Your sentiment is so extreme it's hard for me to understand.

I've known many people in my life who have harmed their children, even physically abused them -- my grandpa was one. I'm very grateful he was not executed by the police, and so are his very children.

There's no room for mercy, forgiveness, reconciliation in your position. And there's most especially not any room for justice, even though that can be the only possible principle you could possibly be trying to uphold. There's no justice in summarily executing anybody who harms a child. Yes, harming children is abhorrent; but those who do should not be summarily executed. That's not justice; it's murderous totalitarianism -- ironically the ideology your "get off my lawn" life attitude most abhors.

That's all I'll say about this, as because you have insisted on your position that you think the police should have murdered her, it's clear no good can come from this discussion.

Perhaps you should have kept your comments to yourself, as it was you who fired the first shot.