Sportsmanship: Time for all of us to do better!

[LA Ute]

BYU President counsels students to balance activities, manage zeal

While most of our students and community are exemplary in their sportsmanship, we as a group as avid boosters can do better and must do better in respecting our opponents, and frankly ourselves, by acting the way representatives of Brigham Young University should act," President Samuelson said. "We applaud your enthusiasm and our student athletes recognize and appreciate your support. However, in both athletics and politics we see far too many examples of over zealous behavior. ... I caution and admonish you to help solve the problems and not be the creators or promoters of offensive behavior.

This is good stuff. Nicely done, Pres. Samuelson. Now Mike Young needs to say, "Amen."

[beefytee]

BYU President counsels students to balance activities, manage zeal



This is good stuff. Nicely done, Pres. Samuelson. Now Mike Young needs to say, "Amen."

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[Green Monstah]

Yeah, I think the rivalry has crossed the fine line between smack talk and talking shit.

[Coastal Ute]

Yeah, I think the rivalry has crossed the fine line between smack talk and talking shit.

Your team sucks!

[Coastal Ute]

I agree with President Samuelson here. Hopefully with Utah and BYU's new scheduling arrangements, the rivalry can take a year or two off, to COOL off. Maybe that won't happen, but I can dream, can't I?

And we have to be honest here. There will always be dingbats on both sides of this, and they most likely will never go away. I think the responsibility lies in the hands of the civil, more intelligent fans to take a stand and prevent bad behavior. I've always wondered if this rivalry could be fun and not just bitter.

[Portland Ute]

Yeah, I think the rivalry has crossed the fine line between smack talk and talking shit.

That's a line so fine that it never existed.

[Katy Lied]

I've never seen it spelled that way, so I looked it up and you can spell it three different ways:

over zealous
over-zealous
overzealous

CUF wordsmiths (or anybody with copy of the OED), is there a difference?

[BoylenOver]

I've never seen it spelled that way, so I looked it up and you can spell it three different ways:

over zealous
over-zealous
overzealous

CUF wordsmiths (or anybody with copy of the OED), is there a difference?

I'm guessing over zealous would be something done physically above the personified object of zealotry, whereas over-zealous and overzealous is excessive zealotry.

[Uncle Ted]

President Samuelson also spoke of the need for individuals to not judge others. "Intensely personal decisions such as who to marry, when to have children if married, opinions about proper and improper majors or career choices for women and men, and other intrusive verbal or behavioral assaults should never be heard or seen in the BYU community," he said. "Happily, they are rare, but when they do happen they are extremely hurtful."

I hope that Julie B. Beck was taking notes.

[byu71]

I hope that Julie B. Beck was taking notes.

Wow, that shows you that things can change. There was a time, like when I was at BYU, that the leaders of the church instructed the members that they were not to put off having children.

[Moliere]

Wow, that shows you that things can change. There was a time, like when I was at BYU, that the leaders of the church instructed the members that they were not to put off having children.

Thankfully now those members are now the leaders.

[wally]

I'm guessing over zealous would be something done physically above the personified object of zealotry, whereas over-zealous and overzealous is excessive zealotry.

This is why I'm an engineer.

[Uncle Ted]

Wow, that shows you that things can change. There was a time, like when I was at BYU, that the leaders of the church instructed the members that they were not to put off having children.

I wasn't at BYU then (mid or late 60's) but Spencer W. Kimball told students they shouldn't date/marry outside their race as well at a BYU devotional. I was given quotes from that and other talks of his all the time growing up in white supremacist Idaho by various youth leaders. They also thought I was going to hell when I stopped going to mutual when I was about 16. It shocked the hell out of them when they found out I had a scholarship to BYU.

[beefytee]

I wasn't at BYU then (mid or late 60's) but Spencer W. Kimball told students they shouldn't date/marry outside their race as well at a BYU devotional. I was given quotes from that and other talks of his all the time growing up in white supremacist Idaho by various youth leaders. They also thought I was going to hell when I stopped going to mutual when I was about 16. It shocked the hell out of them when they found out I had a scholarship to BYU.

Before I left on my mission to Korea, my grandparents had me over for dinner to expounded on the importance of not falling in love with and marrying a Korean girl.

I had a good chuckle about it.

[TheBYUGuy]

I wasn't at BYU then (mid or late 60's) but Spencer W. Kimball told students they shouldn't date/marry outside their race as well at a BYU devotional. I was given quotes from that and other talks of his all the time growing up in white supremacist Idaho by various youth leaders. They also thought I was going to hell when I stopped going to mutual when I was about 16. It shocked the hell out of them when they found out I had a scholarship to BYU.

In our last stake conference, a member of the SP read some 40-year-old quote from Kimball and then spent 5 minutes telling everyone in the stake that they weren't to go on dates with any non-members. That might be practical advice in Utah, but this ain't Utah and he shouldn't be telling it to us like it's doctrine.