Ludwig's stay at KSU was short

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

He gets hired by the guy whose offense he ruined here in Eugene.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/s...e=NCFHeadlines

[Hot Lunch]

He gets hired by the guy whose offense he ruined here in Eugene.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/s...e=NCFHeadlines

That is a dick move by Ludwig to leave this close to spring ball and leave K State with out an OC at this point in time.

[Surfah]

That is a dick move by Ludwig to leave this close to spring ball and leave K State with out an OC at this point in time.

Very dick move. Though I'd probably do the same.

[Hot Lunch]

Very dick move. Though I'd probably do the same.

Their is no doubt that Berkley as a location is much more attractive than Manhattan, Kansas.

[SeattleUte]

He gets hired by the guy whose offense he ruined here in Eugene.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/s...e=NCFHeadlines

I think this small coterie of Ludwig-hating excuse seeking uninformed Duck fans have been proven wrong countless ways. This is just one more.

[SeattleUte]

That is a dick move by Ludwig to leave this close to spring ball and leave K State with out an OC at this point in time.

I have yet to meet a fan base that deserves a coach's loyalty. See HFN's attacks on Ludwig. In this business coaches are right to look out for no. 1.

[Surfah]

I have yet to meet a fan base that deserves a coach's loyalty. See HFN's attacks on Ludwig. In this business coaches are right to look out for no. 1.

I agree. Which is why I said I'd do the same. Doesn't mean it's not a dick move still.

[Hot Lunch]

I have yet to meet a fan base that deserves a coach's loyalty. See HFN's attacks on Ludwig. In this business coaches are right to look out for no. 1.

I agree on the fan base. But what about the school that gave him the opportunity, the other coaches on staff and most importantly the kids on the team? They are the ones that get dicked in this situation. Who cares about the fans. He just jacked his fellow coaches and all the players of Kansas St.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

I think this small coterie of Ludwig-hating excuse seeking uninformed Duck fans have been proven wrong countless ways. This is just one more.

It was not an attack, rather a statement of fact. Oregon under Tedford 34.5 points a game, Under Ludwig 2002-29.4 ppg, 2003-27.3 ppg, 2004-25.6 ppg (and a losing record). Under Crowton 2005-37.1 ppg.

Which one is the lesser of the 3 OCs there? As I said after the BYU and Alabama games, that Ludwig was not the same guy that stalled an Oregon offense for 3 years, nor was he the same OC as Utah had seen for the past 4 years. Maybe those 2 games represent who he is, or maybe years of history more accurately represent his offenses.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

I have yet to meet a fan base that deserves a coach's loyalty. See HFN's attacks on Ludwig. In this business coaches are right to look out for no. 1.

Again pointing out facts is not an attack. Bravo to him for not coaching that way in the BYU and SUGAR BOWL games.

[DrumNFeather]

The ire of Ute fans during his tenure here has now been courted by two "BCS" programs. Define irony.

[SeattleUte]

It was not an attack, rather a statement of fact. Oregon under Tedford 34.5 points a game, Under Ludwig 2002-29.4 ppg, 2003-27.3 ppg, 2004-25.6 ppg (and a losing record). Under Crowton 2005-37.1 ppg.

Which one is the lesser of the 3 OCs there? As I said after the BYU and Alabama games, that Ludwig was not the same guy that stalled an Oregon offense for 3 years, nor was he the same OC as Utah had seen for the past 4 years. Maybe those 2 games represent who he is, or maybe years of history more accurately represent his offenses.

"He gets hired by the guy whose offense he ruined here in Eugene" is not a statement of fact. It's a statement of opinion. Your PPG figures do not tell the whole story. There could be a host of reasons for that. For one thing, the teams had different personnel than Tedford or Crowton. That you are still attacking him after his offense at Utah won 75% of its games, went 13-0 last year, and has won 22 of 23 games, is truly ironic.

[cougjunkie]

"He gets hired by the guy whose offense he ruined here in Eugene" is not a statement of fact. It's a statement of opinion. Your PPG figures do not tell the whole story. There could be a host of reasons for that. For one thing, the teams had different personnel than Tedford or Crowton. That you are still attacking him after his offense at Utah won 75% of its games, went 13-0 last year, and has won 22 of 23 games, is truly ironic.

SU is Georgetown going to make the tournament?

[SeattleUte]

SU is Georgetown going to make the tournament?

Guess which teams have beaten Uconn this year? Which of these beat Uconn on its floor?

I think they'll make it.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

"He gets hired by the guy whose offense he ruined here in Eugene" is not a statement of fact. It's a statement of opinion. Your PPG figures do not tell the whole story. There could be a host of reasons for that. For one thing, the teams had different personnel than Tedford or Crowton. That you are still attacking him after his offense at Utah won 75% of its games, went 13-0 last year, and has won 22 of 23 games, is truly ironic.

Well the 2002 team did have 9 returning starters on offense left by Tedford, and the 2005 team had 8 and the same QB. So somewhere in there you keep missing the point. By any measure the Oregon offense was better before Ludwig and after him. But he was an assistant on a BCS team so that makes him unquestionably great. Since I know you are not a hypocrite please explain why since he won a BCS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP AND SUGAR BOWL, Gary Crowton is the best coach BYU has ever had.

Did the Utah offense or defense win the TCU game? I have given him credit for BYU and SUGAR BOWL. Do you work for ESPN, what normal person says things like 22 of 23? They have played 26 games in the last two years, why do you get to be selective of which ones you count?