If Utah and BYU don't play annually, both will be hurt, but BYU most of all

[SeattleUte]

They need to figure out a way to keep the rivalry alive and resonant. Both programs have made each other better historically. Now the rivalry can get some national recognition. They need to play on Thanksgiving or some other significant time, and really build it up. Now it really is a Holy War, Utah being of the conference of atheists and gays and intellectuals. BYU needs to build up a huge head of antipathy and a chip on its shoulder. All the athletic LDS boys need to be told "this is our darkest hour, don't abandon your church; Utah is the great and abominable."

[Commando]

Meh. I guess Boise State is our rival now.

[New Mexican Disaster]

They need to figure out a way to keep the rivalry alive and resonant. Both programs have made each other better historically. Now the rivalry can get some national recognition. They need to play on Thanksgiving or some other significant time, and really build it up. Now it really is a Holy War, Utah being of the conference of atheists and gays and intellectuals. BYU needs to build up a huge head of antipathy and a chip on its shoulder. All the athletic LDS boys need to be told "this is our darkest hour, don't abandon your church; Utah is the great and abominable."

Naah. It never was a Holy War. The game was non-competitive for most of its existence.

Boise is a new rival. That will work.

[jay santos]

Absolutely. BYU has to paint Utah as the school that sold out it's culture to join with the anti-Mormon, BCS, money grubbing, anti-competitive Pac 10. They need the rivarly and they need it to be ugly. Utah wants the opposite. They want to be the nice guy that's going to help BYU out in every way possible. The casual LDS fan is the battle ground.

[USUC]

Absolutely. BYU has to paint Utah as the school that sold out it's culture to join with the anti-Mormon, BCS, money grubbing, anti-competitive Pac 10. They need the rivarly and they need it to be ugly. Utah wants the opposite. They want to be the nice guy that's going to help BYU out in every way possible. The casual LDS fan is the battle ground.

Well put. Once the fun of taunting BYU wears off, it will turn to "This is good for both of us, it proves to the fat cats that an underdog can rise above it all and succeed. We will pull for you and together we can represent the state of Utah in both worlds" (for some reason I have Jenny from the block by J-Lo playing in my head as i'm typing this). BYU and its fans need to respond to this with a healthy !!!!!!!!! Now can we ditch the firesides and have full contact practices already?

[UtahDan]

Absolutely. BYU has to paint Utah as the school that sold out it's culture to join with the anti-Mormon, BCS, money grubbing, anti-competitive Pac 10. They need the rivarly and they need it to be ugly. Utah wants the opposite. They want to be the nice guy that's going to help BYU out in every way possible. The casual LDS fan is the battle ground.

I just don't know. BYU fans are not very good at acting persecuted or having a "victim" mentality. I'm just not sure you can get anyone to buy all this and act that way.

[SloanHater]

The real problem is that every other year the game would be broadcast on a network that 99% of America doesn't watch. How does the casual college football fan get into a rivalry that disappears every other year?

[Blueintheface]

I just don't know. BYU fans are not very good at acting persecuted or having a "victim" mentality. I'm just not sure you can get anyone to buy all this and act that way.

That one got me.

[New Mexican Disaster]

The real problem is that every other year the game would be broadcast on a network that 99% of America doesn't watch. How does the casual college football fan get into a rivalry that disappears every other year?

Good point.

[BoylenOver]

Well put. Once the fun of taunting BYU wears off, it will turn to "This is good for both of us, it proves to the fat cats that an underdog can rise above it all and succeed. We will pull for you and together we can represent the state of Utah in both worlds" (for some reason I have Jenny from the block by J-Lo playing in my head as i'm typing this). BYU and its fans need to respond to this with a healthy !!!!!!!!! Now can we ditch the firesides and have full contact practices already?

don't be fooled by the rocks that I got.

[old_gregg]

Both programs have made each other better historically.

November 18, 1972 BYU 16–7 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 41–9–4
November 24, 1973 BYU 46–22 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 41–10–4
November 23, 1974 BYU 48–20 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 41–11–4
November 15, 1975 BYU 51–20 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 41–12–4
November 20, 1976 BYU 34–12 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 41–13–4
November 5, 1977 BYU 38–8 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 41–14–4
November 18, 1978 Utah 23–22 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 42–14–4
November 17, 1979 BYU 27–0 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 42–15–4
November 22, 1980 BYU 56–6 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 42–16–4
November 21, 1981 BYU 56–28 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 42–17–4
November 20, 1982 BYU 17–12 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 42–18–4
November 19, 1983 BYU 55–7 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 42–19–4
November 17, 1984 BYU 24–14 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 42–20–4
November 23, 1985 BYU 38–28 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 42–21–4
November 22, 1986 BYU 35–21 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 42–22–4
November 21, 1987 BYU 21–18 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 42–23–4
November 19, 1988 Utah 57–28 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 43–23–4
November 18, 1989 BYU 70–31 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 43–24–4
November 17, 1990 BYU 45–22 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 43–25–4
November 23, 1991 BYU 48–17 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 43–26–4
November 21, 1992 BYU 31–22 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 43–27–4

[beefytee]

I just don't know. BYU fans are not very good at acting persecuted or having a "victim" mentality. I'm just not sure you can get anyone to buy all this and act that way.

I laughed at this. It was pretty good.


It's also funny that Utes can go from BYU having a superiority complex to a persecution complex so quickly.

[il Padrino Ute]

November 18, 1972 BYU 16–7 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 41–9–4
November 24, 1973 BYU 46–22 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 41–10–4
November 23, 1974 BYU 48–20 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 41–11–4
November 15, 1975 BYU 51–20 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 41–12–4
November 20, 1976 BYU 34–12 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 41–13–4
November 5, 1977 BYU 38–8 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 41–14–4
November 18, 1978 Utah 23–22 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 42–14–4
November 17, 1979 BYU 27–0 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 42–15–4
November 22, 1980 BYU 56–6 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 42–16–4
November 21, 1981 BYU 56–28 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 42–17–4
November 20, 1982 BYU 17–12 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 42–18–4
November 19, 1983 BYU 55–7 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 42–19–4
November 17, 1984 BYU 24–14 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 42–20–4
November 23, 1985 BYU 38–28 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 42–21–4
November 22, 1986 BYU 35–21 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 42–22–4
November 21, 1987 BYU 21–18 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 42–23–4
November 19, 1988 Utah 57–28 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 43–23–4
November 18, 1989 BYU 70–31 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 43–24–4
November 17, 1990 BYU 45–22 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 43–25–4
November 23, 1991 BYU 48–17 Cougar Stadium, Provo Utah 43–26–4
November 21, 1992 BYU 31–22 Rice Stadium, Salt Lake City Utah 43–27–4

Why did you only go back to 1972? And why did you ignore everything after 1993? All of it is the history of the rivalry.

[Flattop]

1896: in SLC, Utah 12-4
1896: in SLC, Utah 6-0
1896: in Provo, BYU 8-6
1897: in SLC, BYU 14-0
1897: in Provo, BYU 22-0
1898: in SLC, Utah 5-0

1922: in SLC, Utah 49-0
1923: in Provo, Utah 15-0
1924: in SLC, Utah 35-6
1925: in Provo, Utah 27-0
1926: in SLC, Utah 40-7
1927: in Provo, Utah 20-0
1928: in SLC, scoreless tie
1929: in SLC, Utah 45-13
1930: in SLC, Utah 34-7
1931: in SLC, Utah 43-0
1932: in SLC, Utah 29-0
1933: in SLC, Utah 21-6
1934: in SLC, Utah 43-0
1935: in Provo, Utah 32-0
1936: in SLC, Utah 18-0
1937: in SLC, Utah 14-0
1938: in SLC, 7-7 tie
1939: in Provo, Utah 35-13
1940: in SLC, Utah 12-6
1941: in SLC, 6-6 tie
1942: in SLC, BYU 12-7
1946: in Provo, Utah 35-6
1947: in SLC, Utah 28-6
1948: in Provo, Utah 30-0
1949: in SLC, Utah 38-0
1950: in Provo, 28-28 tie
1951: in SLC, Utah 7-6
1952, in SLC, Utah 34-6
1953: in SLC, Utah 33-32
1954: in Provo, Utah 12-7
1955: in SLC, Utah 41-9
1956: in Provo, Utah 41-6
1957: in SLC, Utah 27-0.
1958: in SLC, BYU 14-7
1959: in SLC, Utah 20-8
1960: in SLC, Utah 17-0
1961: in SLC, Utah 21-20
1962: in SLC, Utah 35-20
1963: in SLC, Utah 15-6
1964: in SLC, Utah 47-13
1965: in Provo, BYU 25-20
1966: in SLC, BYU 35-13
1967: in Provo, BYU 17-13
1968: in SLC, Utah 30-21
1969: in Provo, Utah 16-6
1970: in SLC, Utah 14-13
1971: in Provo, Utah 17-15

[old_gregg]

Why did you only go back to 1972? And why did you ignore everything after 1993? All of it is the history of the rivalry.

SU's comment implied that the rivalry had always made the other team better. It certainly did not in the time period I specified. If you really think that it's possible to compare the 1923 rivalry game to any game after 1970, that's stupid. The total numbers for the series are so diluted that they're not much more than something Utah fans can cling to when they hear Harline, Andrew George, etc.