The Silver Bullet mentality

[FMCoug]

And no I'm not talking about Coors Light. I've been around the block enough times to always be wary of the "silver bullet". The thing that is going to solve all the problems in one fell swoop. We are seeing that out of our Ute brethren right now. RES will be expanded and the stadium that can't consistently sell out 40K will magically fill up every week, all the LDS recruits will pick Utah, they'll get recruits who choose Utah over USC, Texas, et al. And on and on. I just don't see it.

[DrumNFeather]

And no I'm not talking about Coors Light. I've been around the block enough times to always be wary of the "silver bullet". The thing that is going to solve all the problems in one fell swoop. We are seeing that out of our Ute brethren right now. RES will be expanded and the stadium that can't consistently sell out 40K will magically fill up every week, all the LDS recruits will pick Utah, they'll get recruits who choose Utah over USC, Texas, et al. And on and on. I just don't see it.

You might be overstating a bit here. I think some people feel that eventually, some of these things will be a boost for Utah, but nobody is fooling themselves into thinking that this is going to be an immediate impact.

[jay santos]

I see it as incremental change over the long term. i.e. #40 program right now into #20-25 program in 20 years. And BYU #25-30 program now into a #40 program in 20 years.

[byu71]

And no I'm not talking about Coors Light. I've been around the block enough times to always be wary of the "silver bullet". The thing that is going to solve all the problems in one fell swoop. We are seeing that out of our Ute brethren right now. RES will be expanded and the stadium that can't consistently sell out 40K will magically fill up every week, all the LDS recruits will pick Utah, they'll get recruits who choose Utah over USC, Texas, et al. And on and on. I just don't see it.

BYU had better be proactive. No silver bullit right now, but there are definite scenario's where BYU is left far behind. I keep thinking of when BYU let Tuckett go and hired the Phys Ed Dean to run things for a couple of years. No biggie. We are BYU and are doing well because God blesses us. Bull crap, that was the start of the lost decade.

These things take time and if you are jogging and others are running, even the slow runners will pass you up. Just ask poor USU.

None of you are old enough to remember, but when I was a kid, USU was the dominant sports program in the State.

[Indy Coug]

I see it as incremental change over the long term. i.e. #40 program right now into #20-25 program in 20 years. And BYU #25-30 program now into a #40 program in 20 years.

Of course, that assumes that everything stays static in terms of conference alignment for 20 years -- which is a huge assumption.

[jay santos]

Of course, that assumes that everything stays static in terms of conference alignment for 20 years -- which is a huge assumption.

True.

[Blueintheface]

I see it as incremental change over the long term. i.e. #40 program right now into #20-25 program in 20 years. And BYU #25-30 program now into a #40 program in 20 years.

Eyore, is it raining yet? Wait a few minutes and it will. Buck up little camper. You think it's bad now just wait for the feeling you'll have when we lose the last rivalry game of the modern era later this year. See, it's all about perspective.

[KillerDog]

Interesting, the BOT member I spoke with this morning is having just that silver bullet belief. He told me he believes Utah will start winning the in-state and LDS recruiting battles because of their impending move to the Pac-10. As far as he is concerned, the deal is done. He was not as certain about a few of the BOT members who include many very LDS individuals.

[PaloAltoCougar]

None of you are old enough to remember, but when I was a kid, USU was the dominant sports program in the State.

Yeah, but that was before the NCAA eliminated jousting as a D-1 sport.

[SCcoug]

BYU had better be proactive. No silver bullit right now, but there are definite scenario's where BYU is left far behind. I keep thinking of when BYU let Tuckett go and hired the Phys Ed Dean to run things for a couple of years. No biggie. We are BYU and are doing well because God blesses us. Bull crap, that was the start of the lost decade.

These things take time and if you are jogging and others are running, even the slow runners will pass you up. Just ask poor USU.

None of you are old enough to remember, but when I was a kid, USU was the dominant sports program in the State.

I thought Rondo Fehlberg was the AD after Tuckett. Anyway while searching for information on former BYU AD I came across this LA Ute post from the dark days of Cougar sports. Turns out he doesn't like the job Tuckett did.

http://www.utefans.net/archive.php?id=2164&action=View

[SeattleUte]

There are no silver bullets. All that has happened is Utah is a member of what I have always felt is the greatest athletic conference in America, for a whole bunch of reasons.

I think BYU need not decline on the football field. I also really do believe that BYU will benefit from this for reasons including the one's I've identified. I think Utah and BYU will continue to make each other better.

I think a dramatic effect for Utah will be more applications overall. The school will be more competitive because of a more exciting or prestigious athletic situation (as stupid a reason as this may be for selecting a college it influences many smart 18 year olds) and the fact that it is in a club with Stanford, Cal et al. More competitive applications pool is the quickest and most direct way to boost your "USA News ranking." This will help elevate Utah further to national school status overall.

[Indy Coug]

Interesting, the BOT member I spoke with this morning is having just that silver bullet belief. He told me he believes Utah will start winning the in-state and LDS recruiting battles because of their impending move to the Pac-10. As far as he is concerned, the deal is done. He was not as certain about a few of the BOT members who include many very LDS individuals.

Was that revelation or counsel?

[KillerDog]

Was that revelation or counsel?

Not BYU's BOT, Utah's BOT.

[byu71]

There are no silver bullets. All that has happened is Utah is a member of what I have always felt is the greatest athletic conference in America, for a whole bunch of reasons.

I think the Utes will do great because they have joined the second to the shittiest BCS conference in America.

[jay santos]

LDS Utah BOT rejecting Pac offer is like Samuelson not offering KW a decent salary.