ARod tested positive in 2003

[SteelBlue]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ids/index.html

Was anybody clean?

[fusnik]

It was a dead give away dude was juicing when he lost 15 pounds a couple of years ago and was 'feeling great' because of the added 'mobility.'

[8BR]

No. It's easier to name players who didn't use.

[SteelBlue]

No. It's easier to name players who didn't use.

Griffey Jr. is looking more and more like the best player of that era. He seems content to have watched cheaters surpass his numbers and let his career speak for itself.

[8BR]

Griffey Jr. is looking more and more like the best player of that era. He seems content to have watched cheaters surpass his numbers and let his career speak for itself.

If only he would've stayed healthy - and stayed in Seattle.

Next up: Big Papi, Manny and Pujols.

Bonds' people are not going to have him go down without outing all the biggies.

[8BR]

Remember all the talk from the writers hoping AR would pass Bonds HR mark to make the record clean again? He hee

[TripletDaddy]

Does anyone wonder whether KG Jr's injuries were juice related? that guy always seemed to get injured.

[DrumNFeather]

Cal Ripken...I don't believe he juiced. Or Tony Gwynn for that matter. But there aren't many that fall into that category, that's for sure.

[8BR]

The FBI has all of MLB's drug test records. Would Bonds' defense team then also have access to the records - in order to prepare his defense?

[il Padrino Ute]

Cal Ripken...I don't believe he juiced. Or Tony Gwynn for that matter. But there aren't many that fall into that category, that's for sure.

Yep, you've named three that I would guess didn't roid up.

It's time for Selig to go. All of this happening under his watch is inexcusable.

But the man who has ruined baseball more than any other is Donald Fehr. He needs to be drawn and quartered for what he's done as director of the players union. He's basically held the sport hostage with his inflexible way of working.

I hate Fehr more than I hate the Lakers.

[SteelBlue]

There's something dirty about the way these results get released to the media. I mean, it's kind of an ends justify the means approach isn't it? Players took the tests in 2003 being told that results were in essence a survey and would be private. They are seized under warrant and then released anonymously to the media? It's the anonymous leaks that bother me I guess.

[il Padrino Ute]

There's something dirty about the way these results get released to the media. I mean, it's kind of an ends justify the means approach isn't it? Players took the tests in 2003 being told that results were in essence a survey and would be private. They are seized under warrant and then released anonymously to the media? It's the anonymous leaks that bother me I guess.

Agreed.

I'm enough of a conspiracy theorist to think that the results were leaked to the media for reasons more than exposing baseball's steroid problem. I can't think of any other reasons specifically, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that it was a personal vendetta against one or more players.

[TripletDaddy]

Agreed.

I'm enough of a conspiracy theorist to think that the results were leaked to the media for reasons more than exposing baseball's steroid problem. I can't think of any other reasons specifically, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that it was a personal vendetta against one or more players.

looks like this scandal just got a little more juicy (npi).

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9...report-alleges

If it can be proven that the Union is tipping players to upcoming tests, I wonder what will happen? shakeup of union leadership? stricter testing policies? jail time for anyone? loss an anti-trust exemption?

Not sure what the implications are, but for whatever reason, I feel that the more damaging info comes to light, the better it will eventually be for fans of the game. This sport needed to be purged because the entire thing is corrupt, the players are cheating en masse, and the leadership is facilitating the illegal behavior. Es Problemas!

[il Padrino Ute]

looks like this scandal just got a little more juicy (npi).

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9...report-alleges

If it can be proven that the Union is tipping players to upcoming tests, I wonder what will happen? shakeup of union leadership? stricter testing policies? jail time for anyone? loss an anti-trust exemption?

Not sure what the implications are, but for whatever reason, I feel that the more damaging info comes to light, the better it will eventually be for fans of the game. This sport needed to be purged because the entire thing is corrupt, the players are cheating en masse, and the leadership is facilitating the illegal behavior. Es Problemas!

If it turns out that the players were being tipped about upcoming tests, I will hope for Fehr to be locked up and the key be thrown away. I'd even be for all players who test positive booted out and their pensions stripped.

I'd rather MLB be loaded with Double A talent who doesn't cheat. IOW, start over.

[TripletDaddy]

I'd rather MLB be loaded with Double A talent who doesn't cheat. IOW, start over.

At some point, baseball needs to realize that it is riding an awfully fine line between sport and theater. The danger if for public perception to solidify that everyone is a cheater and the records are meaningless. To confirm that leadership is not only aware, but facilitating the cheating by tipping players is seriously damaging. way more than players being caught.

I agree with you....for damage done to the image of the game, kick them out for good.