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    In a letter to the mayor of Los Angeles Arizona's Corporation Commissioner Gary Piece offers to help them cut 25% of their power consumption:

    Dear Mayor Villaraigosa,

    I was dismayed to learn that the Los Angeles City Council voted to boycott Arizona and Arizona-based companies — a vote you strongly supported — to show opposition to SB 1070 (Support our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act).

    You explained your support of the boycott as follows: “While we recognize that as neighbors, we share resources and ties with the State of Arizona that may be difficult to sever, our goal is not to hurt the local economy of Los Angeles, but to impact the economy of Arizona. Our intent is to use our dollars — or the withholding of our dollars — to send a message.” (emphasis added)

    I received your message; please receive mine. As a state-wide elected member of the Arizona Corporation Commission overseeing Arizona’s electric and water utilities, I too am keenly aware of the “resources and ties” we share with the City of Los Angeles. In fact, approximately twenty-five percent of the electricity consumed in Los Angeles is generated by power plants in Arizona.

    If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power agreements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation. I am confident that Arizona’s utilities would be happy to take those electrons off your hands. If, however, you find that the City Council lacks the strength of its convictions to turn off the lights in Los Angeles and boycott Arizona power, please reconsider the wisdom of attempting to harm Arizona’s economy.

    People of goodwill can disagree over the merits of SB 1070. A state-wide economic boycott of Arizona is not a message sent in goodwill.

    Sincerely,

    Commissioner Gary Pierce
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  • #2
    Nice.

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    • #3
      Good for Mr. Pierce. Calling the LA city council's bluff was a good move and we'll see just how committed the folks in LA are about this boycott.
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      • #4
        LA should call his bluff.
        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

        --Jonathan Swift

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
          LA should call his bluff.
          Agreed. Would love to see LA scramble when 25% of their buildings are without power.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
            LA should call his bluff.
            That would be fun to see. LA would have less power and Arizona could sell it to Mexico to encourage illegals to not cross the border.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
              Agreed. Would love to see LA scramble when 25% of their buildings are without power.
              Like private utility shareholders are going to stand by and lose millions for a fight in which they have no dog.

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              • #8
                Boy, at this rate Obama might find himself the President of a very non-United States. Ironically it's conservatives that talk about more state's rights.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                  That would be fun to see. LA would have less power and Arizona could sell it to Mexico to encourage illegals to not cross the border.
                  I'm sure Arizona would violate a bunch of federal laws. They'd have to contend with army tanks like that other racist state Alabama did back in George Wallace's day.

                  When States behave badly they put state's rights at risk.
                  When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                    I'm sure Arizona would violate a bunch of federal laws. They'd have to contend with army tanks like that other racist state Alabama did back in George Wallace's day.

                    When States behave badly they put state's rights at risk.
                    I guess I need to indicate when I'm posting something TIC, eh?

                    Ok, AZ can sell the power to a neighboring state that isn't CA. Either way, LA loses.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
                      Like private utility shareholders are going to stand by and lose millions for a fight in which they have no dog.
                      If a utility has capacity, it will find a buyer, and sooner, not later. There is a reason why utilities form power guarantee arrangements. The shareholders would probably not lose anything. The utilities would probably end up selling excess power to a utility in say, Idaho or Utah. Idaho and Utah would transfer their excess to California--at a steep price. CA would lose for sure.

                      Of course, LA could strike back in the eventuality that AZ need some excess power, but not until next winter at the soonest.

                      With contracts in place though, no one is gonna do anything.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
                        With contracts in place though, no one is gonna do anything.
                        Correct. The PPAs in place will make sure the lights remain on in LA, or Arizona might suffer more financially for cutting the power.
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