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    ACLU, get ready to strike!

    http://espn.go.com/blog/pac10/post/_...ad-turns-vague

    Utah is one of very few legitimate expansion options for the Pac-10. What will be interesting to follow is the local politics if Utah is invited to join the Pac-10 and BYU, as expected, is not. More than a few politicians in Utah probably won't like that and may try to block the move if BYU isn't included. That could get interesting.
    On what conceivable basis would LDS lawmakers try to block admission of Utah to the Pac 10 other than using the state aparatus to advance a religion? If this happens the ACLU needs to file a very big lawsuit against the state. A huge lawsuit.
    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

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    Wrong forum.
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    • #3
      He refrences Lya Woodraska as a source. That should tell you what kind of journalist he is. This is a non-issue. The legislature would not block something that would add money and prestige to the states flagship school.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Surfah View Post
        Wrong forum.
        hardy har har. not!
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          Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
          hardy har har. not!
          Not anymore.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
            http://espn.go.com/blog/pac10/post/_...ad-turns-vague



            On what conceivable basis would LDS lawmakers try to block admission of Utah to the Pac 10 other than using the state aparatus to advance a religion? If this happens the ACLU needs to file a very big lawsuit against the state. A huge lawsuit.
            Wouldn't the ACLU be interested in the Pac 10 not inviting BYU simply because of their religious beliefs and political stances. That would seem like discrimination. I would LOVE to see the ACLU defend BYU, CB or for that matter 75% of Utah would implode.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
              Wouldn't the ACLU be interested in the Pac 10 not inviting BYU simply because of their religious beliefs and political stances. That would seem like discrimination. I would LOVE to see the ACLU defend BYU, CB or for that matter 75% of Utah would implode.
              Absolutely. The ACLU should protect BYU against blatant discrimination by the PAC 10, many of the members of which are funded by taxpayer dollars. BYU has a broader fan base and a stronger athletics department, including a superior football and basketball team, and yet you take Utah because they don't have the Mormon baggage? My blood is boiling!
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              • #8
                Originally posted by All-American View Post
                Absolutely. The ACLU should protect BYU against blatant discrimination by the PAC 10, many of the members of which are funded by taxpayer dollars. BYU has a broader fan base and a stronger athletics department, including a superior football and basketball team, and yet you take Utah because they don't have the Mormon baggage? My blood is boiling!
                The Pac 10's decision has nothing to do with BYU's religious affiliation per se. If a player won't play on Sunday nothing says an NFL team still has to draft him.

                All your facts are debatable in any event. The best case is that over a 20 year time span Utah has had stronger athletics.

                My ACLU case, however, would be a slam dunk. Actually, I hope the state tries to make the Pac 10 take Utah and BYU, just for entertainment value.
                Last edited by SeattleUte; 04-23-2010, 12:07 AM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                  On what conceivable basis would LDS lawmakers try to block admission of Utah to the Pac 10 other than using the state aparatus to advance a religion? If this happens the ACLU needs to file a very big lawsuit against the state. A huge lawsuit.
                  Ask Ann Richards how Baylor got into the Big XII.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                    On what conceivable basis would LDS lawmakers try to block admission of Utah to the Pac 10 other than using the state aparatus to advance a religion? If this happens the ACLU needs to file a very big lawsuit against the state. A huge lawsuit.
                    The article says nothing of LDS lawmakers.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                      The article says nothing of LDS lawmakers.
                      I ask sincerely how many of them aren't LDS. It can't be many.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                        I ask sincerely how many of them aren't LDS. It can't be many.
                        Yeah, that's a semantic battle I wouldn't want to undertake.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                          I ask sincerely how many of them aren't LDS. It can't be many.
                          Probably most. Though aren't there a few openly gay lawmakers? I don't follow Utah politics as closely.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
                            Ask Ann Richards how Baylor got into the Big XII.
                            Someone please tell me that Gov. Herbert is a BYU alum.....

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                            Found it...

                            attended Brigham Young University, but did not graduate.
                            Someone please tell me he is a big fan of BYU....
                            Last edited by Moliere; 04-23-2010, 06:16 AM.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
                              Someone please tell me that Gov. Herbert is a BYU alum.....

                              Edit:

                              Found it...



                              Someone please tell me he is a big fan of BYU....
                              Yes. And his son-in-law is Ben Cahoon.
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