Fourteen kids

[Babs]

This story is really starting to bother me.

So a single woman with SIX kids (ages six, five, four, two, and twin one-year-olds, all of whom were conceived in vitro, one of whom is handicapped), who divorced just a few months earlier, who has a history of financial trouble, and who lives in a 1500 s.f. house -- she asks a fertility specialist for another implantation because she "doesn't have enough girls yet."

And the doctor says YES?!!

And then the doctor implants like a dozen embryos just for the heck of it, even though only two or three at a time are recommended by the American Society of Reproductive Medicine.

This story is just too bizarre.

And I hate to jump to conclusions, but with the mother now unemployed I have a strong suspicion that it's going to come down to TD, Creek, Steel, and PAC (and the other 35 million residents of the Golden State) to support these kids.

And now the mom is auctioning off her kids' story to the highest bidder?

There's something rather ethically questionable about this entire thing.

[marsupial]

Where did she get the money to pay the fertility specialist? IVF is not cheap.

[SteelBlue]

This story is really starting to bother me.

So a single woman with SIX kids (ages six, five, four, two, and twin one-year-olds, all of whom were conceived in vitro, one of whom is handicapped), who divorced just a few months earlier, who has a history of financial trouble, and who lives in a 1500 s.f. house -- she asks a fertility specialist for another implantation because she "doesn't have enough girls yet."

And the doctor says YES?!!

And then the doctor implants like a dozen embryos just for the heck of it, even though only two or three at a time are recommended by the American Society of Reproductive Medicine.

This story is just too bizarre.

And I hate to jump to conclusions, but with the mother now unemployed I have a strong suspicion that it's going to come down to TD, Creek, Steel, and PAC (and the other 35 million residents of the Golden State) to support these kids.

And now the mom is auctioning off her kids' story to the highest bidder?

There's something rather ethically questionable about this entire thing.

Yeah, I have a sneaking suspicion that the first 6 were on the "Golden Bear" plan too. I agree with you that this is ethically questionable and I think I know the answer to most of those questions.

[Babs]

Where did she get the money to pay the fertility specialist? IVF is not cheap.

I was wondering that, too. One article said she worked at the clinic, but I don't know if that's true.

[RobinFinderson]

The commandment is 'be fruitful and multiply,' not 'be fruitful and multiply only if you can afford it.'

[TripletDaddy]

what's wrong with in vitro? why not lay off making jokes about people that do in vitro.

[Gidget]

what's wrong with in vitro? why not lay off making jokes about people that do in vitro.

If we have to do in-vitro we will. In fact we would do that before we would adopt. We are selfish.

[SteelBlue]

If we have to do in-vitro we will. In fact we would do that before we would adopt. We are selfish.

I'm fairly certain DDD is joking and I don't think anyone here has a problem with IVF. The thing that's questionable is this woman with 6 kids becoming a human clown car. Did this physician implant 8 embryos or was it 4 or 5 and some divided? It seems many experts are saying what he/she did was outside the standard of practice either way.

[marsupial]

I am also wondering why in the heck she would do IVF if she has 6 kids already. Don't get me wrong. I love babies. I could have 30 kids and still long for another baby. But if I had to drop 15K and undergo shots and treatments and what have you to get pregnant again I wouldn't do it. (Of course, if I had no kids, I'd endure the procedure and pay the dough.) Yes, I agree with Babs. It's all very weird.

[Babs]

I'm fairly certain DDD is joking and I don't think anyone here has a problem with IVF. The thing that's questionable is this woman with 6 kids becoming a human clown car. Did this physician implant 8 embryos or was it 4 or 5 and some divided? It seems many experts are saying what he/she did was outside the standard of practice either way.

correct on both counts. TD was joking and IVF is not the issue.

The issue is a woman with six kids under the age of seven, and no demonstrable way to support the ones she already had, convincing a doctor (bound by profession to a code of ethics) to implant five more fetuses.

The kids were born ten weeks early. You know how many of these eight kids are going to end up handicapped? The woman's selfishness is deplorable. I assume she must have some kind of compulsive disorder or something. No sane person goes through that much trouble to get pregnant with twin one-year-olds at home.

[Gidget]

what's wrong with in vitro? why not lay off making jokes about people that do in vitro.

I realize he was joking everyone.

[TripletDaddy]

I'm tired of this place.

I can't fool anyone anymore.

[YOhio]

I'm tired of this place.

I can't fool anyone anymore.

You're joking, right?