Why are former BYU players who

[Hallelujah]

are now coaching at Utah considered traitors? They wanted a coaching job and BYU wouldn't hire them so they went 40 miles up the interstate.

If they are really that good, perhaps BYU should have hired them.

[Indy Coug]

Great point, because we all know that the NCAA allows an unlimited number of coaches on staff and because we all know that BYU has an unlimited budget.

[cougjunkie]

I dont think they are traders at all. I just think that BYU didnt want a former running back with 2 years of defensive coaching experience as D-coordinator.

Good for Kalani and good for Roderick.

[il Padrino Ute]

I dont think they are traders at all. I just think that BYU didnt want a former running back with 2 years of defensive coaching experience as D-coordinator.

...good for Roderick.

You mean Schramm, right?

[cougjunkie]

You mean Schramm, right?

Well I meant good for Roderick when he was there as WR coach. BYU wasnt going to give him the same job opportunity.

[il Padrino Ute]

Well I meant good for Roderick when he was there as WR coach. BYU wasnt going to give him the same job opportunity.

Got it. By that same standard, then it was good for KW as well.

While I'd rather that the U had been able to get a more qualified coach to be a coordinator, I realize that the U is what it is...a good team that is located in an area with a mid-sized population. Until there is a large enough population to make Utah (and BYU for that matter) more attractive to one of the bigger name conferences, coaches are going to go elsewhere because there is more money elsewhere. That's just how it is. And as long as the BCS exists, the financial gap between the haves and have-nots will always be a problem.

The only difference really between BYU and Utah is that BYU attracts the coaches who want to be there for their entire career. And that isn't because BYU is a big name program. It's because these coaches are generally LDS who aren't concerned about making more money elsewhere. They want to be a part of what BYU is - the university owned by the LDS coach. KW is pretty much the exception of Utah coaches - he wants to be at Utah for the long haul. I really don't see him going anywhere else.

That's my opinion anyway.

[cougjunkie]

Got it. By that same standard, then it was good for KW as well.

While I'd rather that the U had been able to get a more qualified coach to be a coordinator, I realize that the U is what it is...a good team that is located in an area with a mid-sized population. Until there is a large enough population to make Utah (and BYU for that matter) more attractive to one of the bigger name conferences, coaches are going to go elsewhere because there is more money elsewhere. That's just how it is. And as long as the BCS exists, the financial gap between the haves and have-nots will always be a problem.

The only difference really between BYU and Utah is that BYU attracts the coaches who want to be there for their entire career. And that isn't because BYU is a big name program. It's because these coaches are generally LDS who aren't concerned about making more money elsewhere. They want to be a part of what BYU is - the university owned by the LDS coach. KW is pretty much the exception of Utah coaches - he wants to be at Utah for the long haul. I really don't see him going anywhere else.

That's my opinion anyway.

Kyle obviously made the right choice. More money, and he doesnt have the restrictions that BYU has.

[il Padrino Ute]

Kyle obviously made the right choice. More money, and he doesnt have the restrictions that BYU has.

Agreed.

I beleive both Utah and BYU got it right with the hires they made for football head coach. That's really all that matters.

[Hallelujah]

Great point, because we all know that the NCAA allows an unlimited number of coaches on staff and because we all know that BYU has an unlimited budget.

The U has a bigger budget than the Y?

BTW......Kilani would be a very good D-coordinator (is there anyone on the Y's staff that has the same amount of energy or enthusiasm that Kilani has...combined with his coaching ability). Doman may come the closest.

We'll see how he plays out vs. Hill. I don't think Hill is a bad dcoordinator......he just isn't given the opportunity to be the dcoordinator 100% of the time.

[Indy Coug]

Hey genius, why don't you go back through the timelines and figure out when Roderick and Sitake were hired by Utah and what openings, if any, were available at BYU and who did BYU hire instead?

Thanks in advance.

[cougjunkie]

The U has a bigger budget than the Y?

BTW......Kilani would be a very good D-coordinator (is there anyone on the Y's staff that has the same amount of energy or enthusiasm that Kilani has...combined with his coaching ability). Doman may come the closest.

We'll see how he plays out vs. Hill. I don't think Hill is a bad dcoordinator......he just isn't given the opportunity to be the dcoordinator 100% of the time.

Energy and enthusiasm you can have, coaching ability? The jury is still out. He has been a coach for 5 years and only on the defensive side of the ball for 2. In fact he went from Inside Linebackers coach to D-coordinator. He has never had to worry about anything other than the Middle backer on defense.

[Hallelujah]

Energy and enthusiasm you can have, coaching ability? The jury is still out. He has been a coach for 5 years and only on the defensive side of the ball for 2. In fact he went from Inside Linebackers coach to D-coordinator. He has never had to worry about anything other than the Middle backer on defense.

That's why I said we'll have to wait to see how it plays out.

[BoylenOver]

KW is pretty much the exception of Utah coaches - he wants to be at Utah for the long haul. I really don't see him going anywhere else.

100% agree. If he isn't trying to leverage a #2 ranking, 13-0 record, and a Sugar Bowl win into a BCS job, I don't know when he would leave.