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TripletDaddy
03-10-2010, 07:01 AM
Corey Haim found dead. Drugs.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/03/10/corey-haim-dead-drugs-rehab-child-star/

Surfah
03-10-2010, 07:11 AM
Corey Haim found dead. Drugs.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/03/10/corey-haim-dead-drugs-rehab-child-star/

Sad. I watched the Two Coreys reality show and Feldman was sure broke up about Haim. He tried to help him and help him and finally had to kick him out. BTW, Feldman's wife is ridiculously hot for him.

TripletDaddy
03-10-2010, 07:15 AM
Obviously CH was not a great actor, but he was associated with a very iconic 80s movie.....in style, soundtrack, and story, The Lost Boys was very well done 80s camp.

Of course, I am somewhat partial to 80s-haired Heather Graham in License to Drive...."Mercedes, I am starting to....how do you say....perspire. You know I hate to perspire...."

http://blog.redbox.com/.a/6a00e5510dc3dd883301156fc1272c970c-800wi

dabrockster
03-10-2010, 07:27 AM
That is too bad. I grew up watching these two and even tried my best to grow my hair out like Corey Feldman from "The Burb's" (Anotehr great 80's movie)..


I also watched some of the show they had "The Two Corey's", and Corey Haim seemed never able to move past the fact he was no longer a superstar, while Feldman has moved on in life..

Surfah
03-10-2010, 07:36 AM
That is too bad. I grew up watching these two and even tried my best to grow my hair out like Corey Feldman from "The Burb's" (Anotehr great 80's movie)..


I also watched some of the show they had "The Two Corey's", and Corey Haim seemed never able to move past the fact he was no longer a superstar, while Feldman has moved on in life..

Feldman's definitely accepted his place but he's still bitter about some things. Lost Boys 2 and Goonies 2 for example.

Feldman also MC'd a D-list celebrity basketball game at my HS as a fundraiser. He came dressed in his all black garb, hat and glasses. And he was drunk off his ass. So it's nice to see him get his life together a bit. I think his wife helped ground him. Got to see Nitro from American Gladiators ball it up with my principal though.

SteelBlue
03-10-2010, 08:08 AM
This is strange. I remember thinking in the 80's that he was quite a bit younger than me and being a little annoyed by him. We were basically the same age 38 and 39. I think my memory is fading.

pellegrino
03-10-2010, 08:29 AM
Obviously CH was not a great actor, but he was associated with a very iconic 80s movie.....in style, soundtrack, and story, The Lost Boys was very well done 80s camp.



He wasn't the greatest actor, but he had his moments. I found his performance in Lucas to be fairly convincing, somewhat touching. He was clearly unable to mature from child/teen actor to more adult roles. In a sense, he was destined to this fate because he never matured emotionally either.

http://lostinthepast.shunpike.net/a/lucas/lucas013.jpg

TripletDaddy
03-10-2010, 08:38 AM
He wasn't the greatest actor, but he had his moments. I found his performance in Lucas to be fairly convincing, somewhat touching. He was clearly unable to mature from child/teen actor to more adult roles. In a sense, he was destined to this fate because he never matured emotionally either.

http://lostinthepast.shunpike.net/a/lucas/lucas013.jpg

wow, good call. you are right, he did well in Lucas. My bad for overlooking that one.

There was a 2-3 year period when the 2 Coreys were basically Ground Zero for teen hearthtrob-ism. I think they were perennial staples on the covers of Teen Beat, Tiger Beat, et al.

When child actors pass away (almost always from drugs), I never cease to be astounded by the notion that there are those in Hollywood that readily supply young children with drugs. Boggles my mind. I think about Drew Barrymore struggling with alcohol and cigarettes....at the age of 9, then she smokes pot at 10 and is doing coke at 12. who the heck is supplying a small child with this stuff?

Considering the environment in which they are reared, I guess it is no surprise that a great majority of child actors seem to wind up maladjusted.

Surfah
03-10-2010, 08:47 AM
wow, good call. you are right, he did well in Lucas. My bad for overlooking that one.

There was a 2-3 year period when the 2 Coreys were basically Ground Zero for teen hearthtrob-ism. I think they were perennial staples on the covers of Teen Beat, Tiger Beat, et al.

When child actors pass away (almost always from drugs), I never cease to be astounded by the notion that there are those in Hollywood that readily supply young children with drugs. Boggles my mind. I think about Drew Barrymore struggling with alcohol and cigarettes....at the age of 9, then she smokes pot at 10 and is doing coke at 12. who the heck is supplying a small child with this stuff?

Considering the environment in which they are reared, I guess it is no surprise that a great majority of child actors seem to wind up maladjusted.

Good question. My guess would be the parents in the cases of those hollywood actor families. But for the kids who catch a break who come from outside the scene, who knows? Agents? Other actors?

I don't know that I ever would have turned to drugs had my child acting dreams materialized. But man, I probably would have needed a full-time trainer to keep me from becoming 500 lbs. Those sets are loaded with goodies.

happyone
03-10-2010, 08:50 AM
wow, good call. you are right, he did well in Lucas. My bad for overlooking that one.

There was a 2-3 year period when the 2 Coreys were basically Ground Zero for teen hearthtrob-ism. I think they were perennial staples on the covers of Teen Beat, Tiger Beat, et al.

When child actors pass away (almost always from drugs), I never cease to be astounded by the notion that there are those in Hollywood that readily supply young children with drugs. Boggles my mind. I think about Drew Barrymore struggling with alcohol and cigarettes....at the age of 9, then she smokes pot at 10 and is doing coke at 12. who the heck is supplying a small child with this stuff?

Considering the environment in which they are reared, I guess it is no surprise that a great majority of child actors seem to wind up maladjusted.

or dead:( It does seem that an inordinate amount of them have adjustment problems

pellegrino
03-10-2010, 08:54 AM
wow, good call. you are right, he did well in Lucas. My bad for overlooking that one.

There was a 2-3 year period when the 2 Coreys were basically Ground Zero for teen hearthtrob-ism. I think they were perennial staples on the covers of Teen Beat, Tiger Beat, et al.

When child actors pass away (almost always from drugs), I never cease to be astounded by the notion that there are those in Hollywood that readily supply young children with drugs. Boggles my mind. I think about Drew Barrymore struggling with alcohol and cigarettes....at the age of 9, then she smokes pot at 10 and is doing coke at 12. who the heck is supplying a small child with this stuff?

Considering the environment in which they are reared, I guess it is no surprise that a great majority of child actors seem to wind up maladjusted.
Lucas was one of the better teen movies to come out of the 80s. I'd rank it up there with Ferris Beuler's Day Off, The Breakfast Club, and Sixteen Candles. Haim's performance was probably enhanced by his supporting cast: Charlie Sheen, Wynona Rider, and Kerri Green, who gave perhaps the best performance of her brief career. This is definitely one of those films I'll want my kids to see as they begin middle school etc.

I too cringe at the crap that is thrown at child/teen actors. I hope it's getting better, but who knows. How parents can throw their children into such an environment is beyond me.

Surfah
03-10-2010, 08:58 AM
Lucas was one of the better teen movies to come out of the 80s. I'd rank it up there with Ferris Beuler's Day Off, The Breakfast Club, and Sixteen Candles. Haim's performance was probably enhanced by his supporting cast: Charlie Sheen, Wynona Rider, and Kerri Green, who gave perhaps the best performance of her brief career. This is definitely one of those films I'll want my kids to see as they begin middle school etc.

I too cringe at the crap that is thrown at child/teen actors. I hope it's getting better, but who knows. How parents can throw their children into such an environment is beyond me.

I admit to never having seen Lucas. I need to rent it.

You know what 80's movie I loved that had an ensemble cast, The Outsiders. I loved the book and thought the movie was rad. I really liked Diane Lane as Cherry. Gidget has never seen The Outsiders. Time to rent it I think.

wuapinmon
03-10-2010, 08:58 AM
Of course, I am somewhat partial to 80s-haired Heather Graham in License to Drive...."Mercedes, I am starting to....how do you say....perspire. You know I hate to perspire...."

http://blog.redbox.com/.a/6a00e5510dc3dd883301156fc1272c970c-800wi

I saw this in the theater with Wes Wilson and Jon Lorch. I remember the soundtrack being a decent pop mix, with the Billy Ocean song (beep, beep, yeah) being fun and the Pebbles' track being full of double-meanings that had my 14-year-old brain running scenarios that would've gotten me slapped by Miss Graham.

TripletDaddy
03-10-2010, 09:26 AM
I admit to never having seen Lucas. I need to rent it.

You know what 80's movie I loved that had an ensemble cast, The Outsiders. I loved the book and thought the movie was rad. I really liked Diane Lane as Cherry. Gidget has never seen The Outsiders. Time to rent it I think.

The Outsiders is a fantastic story and a great movie (better book, but great movie). That, along with Red Dawn, St Elmo's Fire, The Breakfast Club.....pound for pound, probably the most power packed ensemble casts of any movies made in the 80s. Certainly hard-pressed to find movies with more combined present and future star power. I would also give a slight nod to Krush Groove, as it featured a load of music/hip hop stars of the day.

I would also consider putting Goonies into that category of an ensemble with future star power, esp given the later success of guys like Josh Brolin and esp Joe Pantoliano and Sean Astin who was nominated (legitmately) for a Supporting Actor Oscar as a result of his work in LOTR. Martha Plimpton has bounced around doing small bit parts and Data gets credit for being Short Round in Temple of Doom. Mrs. Fratelli really only wound up doing Throw Momma From the Train, but since she also helped spawn a rock band, I will give her some cred.


Back to the point, The Outsiders...wow

Rob Lowe
Ralph Macchio
Tom Cruise
Patrick Swayze
Diane Lane
Matt Dillon
Emilio Estevez
C Thomas Howell

I would have to rank The Outsiders as the most potent ensemble cast of the 80s. It was my generation's American Graffiti, basically.

dabrockster
03-10-2010, 10:27 AM
The Outsiders is a fantastic story and a great movie (better book, but great movie). That, along with Red Dawn, St Elmo's Fire, The Breakfast Club.....pound for pound, probably the most power packed ensemble casts of any movies made in the 80s. Certainly hard-pressed to find movies with more combined present and future star power. I would also give a slight nod to Krush Groove, as it featured a load of music/hip hop stars of the day.

I would also consider putting Goonies into that category of an ensemble with future star power, esp given the later success of guys like Josh Brolin and esp Joe Pantoliano and Sean Astin who was nominated (legitmately) for a Supporting Actor Oscar as a result of his work in LOTR. Martha Plimpton has bounced around doing small bit parts and Data gets credit for being Short Round in Temple of Doom. Mrs. Fratelli really only wound up doing Throw Momma From the Train, but since she also helped spawn a rock band, I will give her some cred.


Back to the point, The Outsiders...wow

Rob Lowe
Ralph Macchio
Tom Cruise
Patrick Swayze
Diane Lane
Matt Dillon
Emilio Estevez
C Thomas Howell

I would have to rank The Outsiders as the most potent ensemble cast of the 80s. It was my generation's American Graffiti, basically.

I love 80's movies that are listed here.

The Outsiders was one of my Fav. with Red Dawn. I still watch both of these if I am channel surfing and even set them to record.. Breakfast Club is a close 3rd placer..

Added note: Growing up and even to this day I have people tell me I am Sean Astin's identical twin.. In high school when Rudy came out I was actually given the nickname "Rudy" because I look so much like him..

RobinFinderson
03-10-2010, 10:33 AM
I love 80's movies that are listed here.

The Outsiders was one of my Fav. with Red Dawn. I still watch both of these if I am channel surfing and even set them to record.. Breakfast Club is a close 3rd placer..

Added note: Growing up and even to this day I have people tell me I am Sean Astin's identical twin.. In high school when Rudy came out I was actually given the nickname "Rudy" because I look so much like him..

Oh, I'm sure you do:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/nomilkpls/celebs/seanAstin.jpg

dabrockster
03-10-2010, 10:41 AM
Oh, I'm sure you do:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/nomilkpls/celebs/seanAstin.jpg

LOL. Just picture more muscles.. FYI: I think that was from 50 first dates..


Sadly in my laziness you might be on to something.. But that is changing since I have gotten down now and am fitting back into pants I couldn't fit two years ago..

Shaka
03-10-2010, 10:58 AM
The Two Coreys was the most contrived show I've ever seen on TV. I'm pretty sure most of the dialogue was written.

il Padrino Ute
03-10-2010, 12:38 PM
The Lost Boys and Lucas were the only two films Haim did that were good, IMO. I saw License to Drive and Silver Bullet, but I didn't like either one of those films.

Hollywood seems to really mess up the lives of kids, especially starting in the 70s. Has there ever been a child star that hasn't ended up in some sort of rehab in the last 40 years?

beefytee
03-10-2010, 12:43 PM
You know what 80's movie I loved that had an ensemble cast, The Outsiders. I loved the book and thought the movie was rad. I really liked Diane Lane as Cherry. Gidget has never seen The Outsiders. Time to rent it I think.


The Outsiders is a fantastic story and a great movie (better book, but great movie).

I agree.

The Outsiders movie was the first one I'd seen where the movie wasn't completely different from how I imagined it from the book.

I think that comes from a good combination of great movie making and writing that conveys the story well.

Color Me Badd Fan
03-10-2010, 12:47 PM
The Lost Boys and Lucas were the only two films Haim did that were good, IMO. I saw License to Drive and Silver Bullet, but I didn't like either one of those films.

Hollywood seems to really mess up the lives of kids, especially starting in the 70s. Has there ever been a child star that hasn't ended up in some sort of rehab in the last 40 years?

Sure, Natalie Portman, Fred Savage, the brunette daughter from Roseanne (off the top of my head). Portman went to Harvard, Savage to Stanford and the girl from Roseanne went to Yale. The girl from Roseanne caught the gay.

The kid from What About Bob, Dick Tracy and Can't Hardly Wait went to Yale Law School. Chunk from Goonies went to UCLA's law school and is a very successful entertainment lawyer.

Surfah
03-10-2010, 12:53 PM
I agree.

The Outsiders movie was the first one I've seen where the movie wasn't completely different from how I imagined it from the book.
I think that is a good combination of great movie making and writing that conveys the story well.

Ditto. I can't recall any deviations. In fact C. Thomas Howell's bleached hair was as bad as I imagined it on Ponyboy when reading the book. Whoever did the casting for that movie was brilliant. I hope they won some awards. Every character was perfect. Dillon killed as Dallas.

I was just looking at the cast and Leif Garret was Cherry's boyfriend Bob and Tom Waits played Dally's friend Buck. Holy crap. This cast is unreal. And this was F.F. Coppola flick to boot. That really was the 80's American Graffiti.

Fiyero
03-10-2010, 01:13 PM
Years before my alma mater became the setting for High School Musical, a little-known Corey Haim movie called Dream Machine was filmed there and in other locations around Salt Lake City, Sugarhouse, the Avenues, and Emigration Canyon. Several of us East High purists own the scarce VHS copies.

TripletDaddy
03-10-2010, 01:14 PM
Ditto. I can't recall any deviations. In fact C. Thomas Howell's bleached hair was as bad as I imagined it on Ponyboy when reading the book. Whoever did the casting for that movie was brilliant. I hope they won some awards. Every character was perfect. Dillon killed as Dallas.

I was just looking at the cast and Leif Garret was Cherry's boyfriend Bob and Tom Waits played Dally's friend Buck. Holy crap. This cast is unreal. And this was F.F. Coppola flick to boot. That really was the 80's American Graffiti.

There are a bunch of small differences that are probably not critical, but they are definitely differences.

One of the first ones that jumped out is that FFC decided to change the book from an East/West conflict to a North/South conflict. Not sure if he didn't want to piggyback off the familiarity of the phrase "West Side" (from West Side Story). Or perhaps he wanted to evoke imagery of the traditional North/South conflict stemming from the Civil War.

Also, the book spends time establishing that Ponyboy is failing his English class, why he is failing, etc. His failure is the very reason why he sits down and writes the entire story in the first place. The movie doesn't talk about his failing the class at all, so at the end of the show, all of a sudden we see Ponyboy writing an essay in class but have no reason to know why. Katylied recently mentioned deus ex machina. This might be a vague example of that here.

Other small differences would be things like the precise location of where the kids were rescued in the church, Mickey Mouse (the horse) being mentioned, etc. Nothing that changes the plot, by any stretch.

cougjunkie
03-10-2010, 01:15 PM
Ditto. I can't recall any deviations. In fact C. Thomas Howell's bleached hair was as bad as I imagined it on Ponyboy when reading the book. Whoever did the casting for that movie was brilliant. I hope they won some awards. Every character was perfect. Dillon killed as Dallas.

I was just looking at the cast and Leif Garret was Cherry's boyfriend Bob and Tom Waits played Dally's friend Buck. Holy crap. This cast is unreal. And this was F.F. Coppola flick to boot. That really was the 80's American Graffiti.

I think people are going to look back at the movie Valentines Day and say similar things.

Jessica Alba, Kathy Bates, Jessica Biel, Bradley Cooper, Eric Dane, Patrick Dempsey, Jamie Foxx, Jennifer Garner, Topher Grace, Anne Hathaway, Queen Latifah, Ashton Kutcher, Taylor Lautner, Taylor Swift, and Julia Roberts.

The only difference is that I am sure V-day was a crappy movie.

Surfah
03-10-2010, 01:21 PM
I think people are going to look back at the movie Valentines Day and say similar things.

Jessica Alba, Kathy Bates, Jessica Biel, Bradley Cooper, Eric Dane, Patrick Dempsey, Jamie Foxx, Jennifer Garner, Topher Grace, Anne Hathaway, Queen Latifah, Ashton Kutcher, Taylor Lautner, Taylor Swift, and Julia Roberts.

The only difference is that I am sure V-day was a crappy movie.

I was thinking what was the 90's version? Or the 00's?

Valentine's Day is contrived as an ensemble cast so it doesn't count in my book. American Graffiti and The Outsiders featured these actors before they became big stars.

Surfah
03-10-2010, 01:23 PM
There are a bunch of small differences that are probably not critical, but they are definitely differences.

One of the first ones that jumped out is that FFC decided to change the book from an East/West conflict to a North/South conflict. Not sure if he didn't want to piggyback off the familiarity of the phrase "West Side" (from West Side Story). Or perhaps he wanted to evoke imagery of the traditional North/South conflict stemming from the Civil War.

Also, the book spends time establishing that Ponyboy is failing his English class, why he is failing, etc. His failure is the very reason why he sits down and writes the entire story in the first place. The movie doesn't talk about his failing the class at all, so at the end of the show, all of a sudden we see Ponyboy writing an essay in class but have no reason to know why. Katylied recently mentioned deus ex machina. This might be a vague example of that here.

Other small differences would be things like the precise location of where the kids were rescued in the church, Mickey Mouse (the horse) being mentioned, etc. Nothing that changes the plot, by any stretch.

How do you remember this stuff? Man, I like to think I have a super memory and most everyone in my family and friends call or text me for silly trivia but you have a gift. And I refuse to believe it is Google.

Edit: Sorry to go all Waup on you. :emb:

TripletDaddy
03-10-2010, 01:33 PM
How do you remember this stuff? Man, I like to think I have a super memory and most everyone in my family and friends call or text me for silly trivia but you have a gift. And I refuse to believe it is Google.

Edit: Sorry to go all Waup on you. :emb:

Nah, I just happened to really enjoy that book and movie. And the 80s and 90s are my thing.

You are correct about the contrived nature of Valentines Day. Outsiders and the other aforementioned movies were cast prior to these kids being huge box office draws. Also, The Outsiders is based on an excellent book. Valentines Day is basically a series of comedic sketches.

By definition, it is tougher to identify a 2000s equivalent because there has been insufficient passage of time to see whether today's unknowns become big stars in the next 5-10 years. Movies in the 2000s that have the potential would be something horrible like I Know What you Did Last Summer......several actors that may still wind up going on to bigger things (even though that movie was awful).

American Pie might be an example from late 90s/early 200s. Tara Reid has been d-listed, but Jason Biggs, Alyson Hannigan, Sean William Scott, Eugene Levy, Mena Suvari all have gone on to do other stuff. This movie might be the closest example of future star power, although we would probably all agree that it is not on the same level as The outsider ensemble.

I think those 80s ensembles were special. It was no coincidence that they were dubbed brat packers, as such combined star power had not been seen since the earlier days of the Rat Pack.

Surfah
03-10-2010, 02:01 PM
Nah, I just happened to really enjoy that book and movie. And the 80s and 90s are my thing.

You are correct about the contrived nature of Valentines Day. Outsiders and the other aforementioned movies were cast prior to these kids being huge box office draws. Also, The Outsiders is based on an excellent book. Valentines Day is basically a series of comedic sketches.

By definition, it is tougher to identify a 2000s equivalent because there has been insufficient passage of time to see whether today's unknowns become big stars in the next 5-10 years. Movies in the 2000s that have the potential would be something horrible like I Know What you Did Last Summer......several actors that may still wind up going on to bigger things (even though that movie was awful).

American Pie might be an example from late 90s/early 200s. Tara Reid has been d-listed, but Jason Biggs, Alyson Hannigan, Sean William Scott, Eugene Levy, Mena Suvari all have gone on to do other stuff. This movie might be the closest example of future star power, although we would probably all agree that it is not on the same level as The outsider ensemble.

I think those 80s ensembles were special. It was no coincidence that they were dubbed brat packers, as such combined star power had not been seen since the earlier days of the Rat Pack.

I was thinking maybe Dazed and Confused for the 90's. Jason London, Cole Hauser, Joey Lauren Adams, Mila Jovovic, Ben Affleck, Matthew McConaghey, that one guy that gets his butt kicked at the dirt party at the end of the movie that continues to get roles playing weirdos.

Clueless featured Alicia Silverstone, Brittany Murphy, and Paul Rudd.

Boogie Nights had Mark Wahlberg, Heather Graham, John C Reilly, Phillip Seymour Hoffman, and Julianne Moore.

American Pie has potential for sure. Superbad is another.

dabrockster
03-10-2010, 02:13 PM
I was thinking what was the 90's version? Or the 00's?

Valentine's Day is contrived as an ensemble cast so it doesn't count in my book. American Graffiti and The Outsiders featured these actors before they became big stars.

Oceans Eleven comes to mind.

BRILLIANT Movie as well.

Maybe not THE most top stars but it at least was a smash hit..

Surfah
03-10-2010, 02:15 PM
Oceans Eleven somes to mind.

BRILLIANT Movie as well.

Maybe not THE most top stars but it at least was a smash hit..

But again, great ensemble, but most of these guys were legit stars A-listing movies alone when it came out. So I won't count it. But I did enjoy the movie. I like the original very much also.

cougjunkie
03-10-2010, 02:16 PM
What about Young Guns?

Emilio Estevez, Charlie Sheen, Kiefer Sutherland, Lou Diamond Phillips.

dabrockster
03-10-2010, 02:16 PM
But again, great ensemble, but most of these guys were legit stars A-listing movies alone when it came out. So I won't count it. But I did enjoy the movie. I like the original very much also.


This movie has THE best quotes I have ever seen in a single movie.. The writing was brilliant.. I still chuckle just thinking about them..

TripletDaddy
03-10-2010, 02:16 PM
I was thinking maybe Dazed and Confused for the 90's. Jason London, Cole Hauser, Joey Lauren Adams, Mila Jovovic, Ben Affleck, Matthew McConaghey, that one guy that gets his butt kicked at the dirty party at the end of the movie that continues to get roles playing weirdos.

Clueless featured Alicia Silverstone, Brittany Murphy, and Paul Rudd.

Boogie Nights had Mark Wahlberg, Heather Graham, John C Reilly, Phillip Seymour Hoffman, and Julianne Moore.

American Pie has potential for sure. Superbad is another.

Boogie Nights. good call....the question becomes whether many of the stars were already big stars....Mark was Marky Mark and Calvin Klein model, J-Moore had already been in a load of movies, including movies that grossed hundreds of millions of dollars (2 Jurassic Park movies, The Fugitive). I like that Boogie featured Don freaking Cheadle, also known as Rocket, the Blood killing Crip. Plus you throw in Burt Reynolds for good measure, even though he was already a star. It might not meet the "before they were really famous" criteria, but I would agree that it is probably the best example of collective ensemble star power of the 90s.

Dazed and Confused....fair. That is good nomination.

Superbad....another good call! It is one that is a "wait and see." We have to come back in about 10 years and check in on what they all wound up doing.

il Padrino Ute
03-10-2010, 02:16 PM
Oceans Eleven comes to mind.

BRILLIANT Movie as well.

Maybe not THE most top stars but it at least was a smash hit..

Which Oceans Eleven? The good one with the Rat Pack or the remake with Douchebag Clooney?

dabrockster
03-10-2010, 02:17 PM
What about Young Guns?

Emilio Estevez, Charlie Sheen, Kiefer Sutherland, Lou Diamond Phillips.




Great movie... I'm a sucker for Westerns...

TripletDaddy
03-10-2010, 02:20 PM
But again, great ensemble, but most of these guys were legit stars A-listing movies alone when it came out. So I won't count it. But I did enjoy the movie. I like the original very much also.

I would agree. I checked wiki (see, I admitted it!) and the Outsiders was made on a total budget of $10M. The reason was that the entire cast was largely a bunch of nobodies at the time.

Oceans 11 was made on a budget of $85M and it would have been over 100M had Julia Roberts not agreed to do the movie for some ridiculous fee (it was rumored to be $100 or something crazy like that).

The movies are apples and oranges...O11 is a star studded glamours cast of A-listers.

Agreed that it is a cool movie, though.

TripletDaddy
03-10-2010, 02:21 PM
What about Young Guns?

Emilio Estevez, Charlie Sheen, Kiefer Sutherland, Lou Diamond Phillips.

nice. I think they were all already famous but a good strong ensemble cast. And a cool movie, too.

il Padrino Ute
03-10-2010, 02:23 PM
If we're talking movies with relatively unknowns who went on to be successful, we need to include Animal House as well. Not only did it launch careers for a number of actors (John Belushi, Tom Hulce, Stephen Furst, Kevin Bacon, Karen Allen, etc., but it's director (John Landis) and one of the writers (Harold Ramis) benefited just as much.

Surfah
03-10-2010, 02:25 PM
What about Young Guns?

Emilio Estevez, Charlie Sheen, Kiefer Sutherland, Lou Diamond Phillips.

I loved Young Guns 1 and 2. I think this is a worthy nomination. Dermot Mulroney was in it too. This was late 80's no? When did Young Guns 2 come out? That one had Viggo Mortensen in it.

Surfah
03-10-2010, 02:26 PM
If we're talking movies with relatively unknowns who went on to be successful, we need to include Animal House as well. Not only did it launch careers for a number of actors (John Belushi, Tom Hulce, Stephen Furst, Kevin Bacon, Karen Allen, etc., but it's director (John Landis) and one of the writers (Harold Ramis) benefited just as much.

Can't argue that. Nice pull!

dabrockster
03-10-2010, 02:27 PM
Which Oceans Eleven? The good one with the Rat Pack or the remake with Douchebag Clooney?


I am talking about the newer one.. Yes Clooney is a douche but I still enjoy this movie...

TripletDaddy
03-10-2010, 02:27 PM
If we're talking movies with relatively unknowns who went on to be successful, we need to include Animal House as well. Not only did it launch careers for a number of actors (John Belushi, Tom Hulce, Stephen Furst, Kevin Bacon, Karen Allen, etc., but it's director (John Landis) and one of the writers (Harold Ramis) benefited just as much.

wait...John Belushi wasn't an unknown when he did Animal House. He was probably the most famous comedian in the country at the time due to his stint on SNL. He was also a top selling record artist with his Blues Brothers stuff.

Animal House was made BECAUSE of John Belushi. Without him, the movie might have never left the ground.

hostile
03-10-2010, 02:29 PM
Years before my alma mater became the setting for High School Musical, a little-known Corey Haim movie called Dream Machine was filmed there and in other locations around Salt Lake City, Sugarhouse, the Avenues, and Emigration Canyon. Several of us East High purists own the scarce VHS copies.

Was the female lead in that movie a brunette with long, straight hair? First name I think was Brittany, can't remember the last.

dabrockster
03-10-2010, 02:35 PM
I loved Young Guns 1 and 2. I think this is a worthy nomination. Dermot Mulroney was in it too. This was late 80's no? When did Young Guns 2 come out? That one had Viggo Mortensen in it.

The guy from the original CSI was in Young Guns 3 I think or 2..

il Padrino Ute
03-10-2010, 03:32 PM
wait...John Belushi wasn't an unknown when he did Animal House. He was probably the most famous comedian in the country at the time due to his stint on SNL. He was also a top selling record artist with his Blues Brothers stuff.

Animal House was made BECAUSE of John Belushi. Without him, the movie might have never left the ground.

Yeah, you're right. Perhaps I am thinking that it was his first movie that anyone watched.

Still, the rest of the cast was terrific for unknowns.

Hsaru
03-10-2010, 10:44 PM
Freaks and Geeks TV show, Apatow created, starring Seth Rogen, James Franco, Jason Segel all as unknowns. With bit parts by an unknown very young Shia Labeouf, Rashida Jones(Karen from the office), and Ben Stiller among others.

All the other actors are TV and movie regulars for the most part also. The show created the Apatow brand that is so popular right now.