It seems as though all discussion ranges around conferences getting to 12 teams. I realize the 16 team WAC was a failure, but I could see the value in a 14 team league. It works for Big East hoops.
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We think alike. I've been thinking that the Pac 10 should just go gut the MWC--take Utah, TCU, New Mexico, and CSU, Air Force or Colorado. BYU will be fine. It can fend for itself in the WAC or the Big 12.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View PostIt seems as though all discussion ranges around conferences getting to 12 teams. I realize the 16 team WAC was a failure, but I could see the value in a 14 team league. It works for Big East hoops."Take it to the Bank"
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Originally posted by Hot Lunch View PostBecause nobody wants to split the revenue 14 ways. That is less money to all parties involved.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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Originally posted by Hot Lunch View PostBecause nobody wants to split the revenue 14 ways. That is less money to all parties involved.
Take BYU and Utah out of the discussion, if the Big 12 added Penn State and Arkansas they would get more TV money, more bowls, more NCAA bids, more BCS games, etc.Get confident, stupid
-landpoke
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Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostUtah and New Mexico together make a market roughly the size of Colorado. Might be worth it to throw in the Lobos. NM pop. 2 million, Utah 2.7 million, Colorado, 5 million.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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For football, 12 teams means you play everyone in your division once a year, and the teams in the other division of your conference every other year. 5 divsional conference games. 3 non-divisional conference games. 4 non-conference games.
If you do it with 14, you've got 6 divisional games, and then 3 non-divisional, and you'll miss a team in a two-year period. The extra league game means that, for power conferences where teams play virtually all OOC games at home (read the SEC), they'll occassionally miss an 8th home game. Simply not acceptable...
12 teams makes everything easier form a scheduling standpoint, and guarantees you 4 OOC patsies at home, if you're so inclined.
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Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View PostI am working on the assumption that 14 teams would be able to generate more revenue than 12.
Take BYU and Utah out of the discussion, if the Big 12 added Penn State and Arkansas they would get more TV money, more bowls, more NCAA bids, more BCS games, etc."Take it to the Bank"
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Originally posted by statman View PostFor football, 12 teams means you play everyone in your division once a year, and the teams in the other division of your conference every other year. 5 divsional conference games. 3 non-divisional conference games. 4 non-conference games.
If you do it with 14, you've got 6 divisional games, and then 3 non-divisional, and you'll miss a team in a two-year period. The extra league game means that, for power conferences where teams play virtually all OOC games at home (read the SEC), they'll occassionally miss an 8th home game. Simply not acceptable...
12 teams makes everything easier form a scheduling standpoint, and guarantees you 4 OOC patsies at home, if you're so inclined.Get confident, stupid
-landpoke
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Originally posted by falafel View PostIf you're taking NM, would you mind taking Wyoming and San Diego as well? Much obliged.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostUtah and New Mexico together make a market roughly the size of Colorado. Might be worth it to throw in the Lobos. NM pop. 2 million, Utah 2.7 million, Colorado, 5 million."Take it to the Bank"
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Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View PostYou could still play 8 conference games, 6 divisional games, 2 inter-divisional games, 4 OOC patsies. There is no rule that says you have to play a certain percentage of conference teams in a year.
Also, if you only play the other division's teams every 3 or 4 years, luck of the draw in playing the good teams from the other division REALLY becomes an issue. It already is an issue in football - think of BYU's Home/Away schedule with TCU & Utah. BYU gets them either both at home or both on the road. The team's ultimate record can be feast or famine, determined by the h/a of the good teams they play.
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Originally posted by statman View PostAlso, if you only play the other division's teams every 3 or 4 years, luck of the draw in playing the good teams from the other division REALLY becomes an issue. It already is an issue in football - think of BYU's Home/Away schedule with TCU & Utah. BYU gets them either both at home or both on the road. The team's ultimate record can be feast or famine, determined by the h/a of the good teams they play.Get confident, stupid
-landpoke
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