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MarkGrace
01-30-2010, 04:01 PM
We're taking a break this week from the College Football Roundtable. Instead, with National Signing Day fast approaching, we asked our recruiting experts to fill in for the weekend.

We have three recruiting questions today, and will have three more Sunday in our special College Football Recruiting Roundtables.

1. WHICH NON-BIG SIX PROGRAM HAS SURPRISED YOU WITH ITS RECRUITING EFFORTS, EITHER GOOD OR BAD?

Jeremy Crabtree's answer:
I'm a big fan of what's going on in the state of Utah with BYU and Utah. The Cougars jumped out of the gate early with a lot of great commitments, including probably the most college-ready quarterback in this year's class in Jake Heaps. I also like what they did addressing their needs. It's no shock that they're going to finish in our top 40 in the team recruiting rankings. I also really like the Utes' class. They still have some pieces to add as we head down the stretch, and they could pass BYU as the top class in the Mountain West. The job they did in the state of Texas is quite impressive. Plus, the Utes are a threat now in California and often beat many Pac-10 programs for prospects.

Barry Every's answer:
The easy answer would be BYU because it is getting a nice haul with the likes of Jake Heaps, Ross Apo, Bronson Kaufusi, and Joshua Quezada -- and each is from a different state. But I am going to pick SMU. Ben Gottschalk, an offensive lineman out of California, had a great Nike camp in Los Angeles. I also like the potential of two kids from Tyler, Texas: Jeremy Johnson and Ricky Collins. Both are good athletes who are dangerous with the ball in their hands.

Mike Farrell's answer:
It's not really a surprise because it has such a great tradition and always does fairly well in recruiting, but BYU has killed it this year. "Jake Heaps to Ross Apo" is going to be something you hear a lot of when watching BYU games in the future. BYU's staff has done a much better job of recruiting than some schools that can sell an automatic BCS berth from its conference.

Greg Ladky's answer:
Toledo. BYU has the highest-ranked non-Big Six class, but that is nothing new. Toledo has 2009 four-star receiver James Green enrolled in classes this semester. Cleveland Glenville's James Gordon missed most of this season with an ACL injury, but could be a steal if he makes a full recovery. Toledo has a trio of mid-three star prospects in David Fluellen, Ross Madison and Quintin Robinson. Another three-star commitment, Elijah Jones, won the defensive line MVP at the 2009 Illinois NIKE camp over players such as five-star prospect William Gholston and top Illinois prospect Bruce Gaston Jr. Two-star commitment Zac Rosenbauer sat out most of his junior season with a broken collarbone and would have been a more heavily recruited prospect if not for the injury.

Jamie Newberg's answer:
The easy and obvious answer is BYU, and that's because the Cougars have landed a few big-name prospects such as quarterback Jake Heaps, wide receiver Ross Apo and defensive end Bronson Kaufusi. They have the best non-Big Six ranking nationally. But to me, the biggest surprise at this point is Marshall, with new coach Doc Holliday. Marshall had a great January and has really capitalized in Florida with pre-existing relationships with recruits formed when the staff was at their previous schools. Marshall has taken three recruits away from West Virginia and another from Wake Forest. The Thundering Herd have added speed and athleticism. To do what they have done given the short recruiting window is surprising to me.

Barton Simmons' answer:
I've been extremely impressed with what new coach Larry Porter has been able to do in just a matter of weeks at Memphis. He was able to spark interest from big-time recruits such as Lache Seastrunk and Barry Brunetti. Despite missing out on them in the end, Porter showed that the program can get elite players to listen. Porter and his staff have evaluated well, too. Memphis was the first school to offer defensive tackle Brandon Ivory, landing his commitment before he changed his mind and picked Alabama. Finally, the players that Memphis actually is bringing in are some of the best prospects in Louisiana and Memphis - two areas that likely will be crucial to Memphis' future success. Frankie Jackson was one of Louisiana's most productive backs in 2009, RobDonovan Lewis is a do-it-all athlete and Memphis city standouts Corey Jones and Fred Harvey were too good to let get away. All four have been brought into the fold since Porter's arrival.
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1045750

myboynoah
01-30-2010, 04:13 PM
Toledo represents!

SeattleUte
01-30-2010, 04:31 PM
These guys are grading on the curve (the question did actually ask who's surprised the most). Utah and BYU are light years ahead of Marshall. The first guy is being the most thorough and accurate. BYU has been getting all the talk because of the early commits and the 2-3 big names. But Utah may wind up with the stronger overall class, including some amazing out of state work by Kyle. My trickle down theory is not totally bearing out, because Whit is going head to head in some instances with top 10 programs and winning out. VJ Fehoko has his list narrowed to Utah and Utah State. Check out his offers.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/westvirginia/football/recruiting/player-V.J.-Fehoko-82021

Surfah
01-30-2010, 04:32 PM
These guys are grading on the curve (the question did actually ask who's surprised the most). Utah and BYU are light years ahead of Marshall. The first guy is being the most thorough and accurate. BYU has been getting all the talk because of the early commits and the 2-3 big names. But Utah may wind up with the stronger overall class, including some amazing out of state work by Whit. My trickle down theory is not totally bearing out, because Whit is going head to head in some instances with top 10 programs and winning out. VJ Fehoko has his list narrowed to Utah and Utah State. Check out his offers.

Fehoko would be a nice get for Utah.

Viking
01-30-2010, 04:32 PM
Utah and Utah State. Must be a real catch, this guy.

SCcoug
01-30-2010, 04:38 PM
VJ Fehoko has his list narrowed to Utah and Utah State. Check out his offers.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/westvirginia/football/recruiting/player-V.J.-Fehoko-82021

lol, so with all those offers he could end up going to Utah State? If so I'd question whether he really has all of those offers.

SeattleUte
01-30-2010, 04:39 PM
Utah and Utah State. Must be a real catch, this guy.

This reminds me of when junkie was denigrating a highly recruited guy because he committed with CSU. Guess what. It looks like CSU has a coach that will make that program one to reckon with again. Why not? Same with Utah State. Obviously Anderson is a very promising coach. Historically, Utah State beat BYU and Utah a bunch of times, even in the Lavelle years. Why not again?

SeattleUte
01-30-2010, 04:41 PM
lol, so with all those offers he could end up going to Utah State? If so I'd question whether he really has all of those offers.

Typical parochialism.

Who knows who really wanted Heaps? I mean, his mom commited him when he was 12, so he never got any other offers or really vetted.

Viking
01-30-2010, 04:47 PM
This reminds me of when junkie was denigrating a highly recruited guy because he committed with CSU. Guess what. It looks like CSU has a coach that will make that program one to reckon with again. Why not? Same with Utah State. Obviously Anderson is a very promising coach. Historically, Utah State beat BYU and Utah a bunch of times, even in the Lavelle years. Why not again?
I am not questioning his athletic abilities. Rather, someone who could go to Washington and elsewhere decides to include Utah State as a final choice? Has he been to Logan?

Jarid in Cedar
01-30-2010, 04:50 PM
I am not questioning his athletic abilities. Rather, someone who could go to Washington and elsewhere decides to include Utah State as a final choice? Has he been to Logan?

Fehoko's family has a relationship with Anderson.

John McClain
01-30-2010, 04:53 PM
Typical parochialism.

Who knows who really wanted Heaps?

Probably any team looking for a very good quarterback. That really narrows it down.

Portland Ute
01-30-2010, 05:08 PM
Fehoko's family has a relationship with Anderson.

That relationship consisted of Whitley being recruited by Andersen, right?

I still don't get the way this is playing out and I think he goes to USU.

If USU is in his final two and he's passed up trips to ND, UW and OU, I don't see how he's not picking USU.

If he was going to Utah, this would be over now.

I am still hoping that his familial relationship to Sitake and the far superior program at Utah lead him to the U., but the way this is playing out I don't "feel" good about this.

SeattleUte
01-30-2010, 05:30 PM
That relationship consisted of Whitley being recruited by Andersen, right?

I still don't get the way this is playing out and I think he goes to USU.

If USU is in his final two and he's passed up trips to ND, UW and OU, I don't see how he's not picking USU.

If he was going to Utah, this would be over now.

I am still hoping that his familial relationship to Sitake and the far superior program at Utah lead him to the U., but the way this is playing out I don't "feel" good about this.

It could also mean he's picked Utah. It doesn't cost anything to give Utah State the distinction of having been in the final 2.

il Padrino Ute
01-30-2010, 05:40 PM
I am not questioning his athletic abilities. Rather, someone who could go to Washington and elsewhere decides to include Utah State as a final choice? Has he been to Logan?

Gary Andersen.

Next question?

Jarid in Cedar
01-30-2010, 05:46 PM
That relationship consisted of Whitley being recruited by Andersen, right?
I still don't get the way this is playing out and I think he goes to USU.

If USU is in his final two and he's passed up trips to ND, UW and OU, I don't see how he's not picking USU.

If he was going to Utah, this would be over now.

I am still hoping that his familial relationship to Sitake and the far superior program at Utah lead him to the U., but the way this is playing out I don't "feel" good about this.

That is correct. I find it curious how this is playing out. If he was going to commit to USU, I would think he would have done it by now as well. Makes me wonder if there is a dark horse somewhere.

I think he will be wearing red in the fall.

Hot Lunch
01-30-2010, 05:58 PM
If USU is in his final two and he's passed up trips to ND, UW and OU, I don't see how he's not picking USU.



I know he had a few BCS offers but are you sure a couple of them were from ND and OU?

Anderson is a stud and one of the best recruiter from the 3 teams in this state. I don't blame him for listening to what Anderson has to offer. He would also start right away up there.

I think Utah still gets him and it will be a great get for Utah.

HuskyFreeNorthwest
01-30-2010, 06:00 PM
Toledo represents!

We should start a "Thanks, Toledo!" thread.

Portland Ute
01-31-2010, 08:42 AM
I know he had a few BCS offers but are you sure a couple of them were from ND and OU?

Anderson is a stud and one of the best recruiter from the 3 teams in this state. I don't blame him for listening to what Anderson has to offer. He would also start right away up there.

I think Utah still gets him and it will be a great get for Utah.

ND and OU had contacted him to trip out to see them this weekend. I don't think they were looking at getting him out there just to have tea and crumpets.

HuskyFreeNorthwest
01-31-2010, 10:08 AM
ND and OU had contacted him to trip out to see them this weekend. I don't think they were looking at getting him out there just to have tea and crumpets.

If he drinks tea it is no wonder BYU didn't offer.