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    This is not a troll. I've been meaning to write this but you guys keep pissing me off.

    3D the other day described how BYU's 1996 season was a break through in that a mid-major played and won a New Year's bowl (which I know used to be the major bowls, though at that time the Cotton, which had hosted some "NC" and other great games, was in decline, displaced by the Fiesta). His post was well stated and I agree with him.

    But I think Utah owes BYU a more prfound debt. We see Lavelle's legacy all over college football, at Texas Tech, up at Washington, even all over the NFL. It goes on and on. He has left an impressive mark of inovation and legacy. Utah, being so close, maybe has benefited more than anyone. In the 1980's Utah concsiously began trying to develop a passing attack mimicking BYU's. Yes, Utah had no history to speak of until 1994. And of course, Kyle Whittingham himself is of the Lavelle tree.

    But even beyond this, I think BYU's success drove Utah to try to achieve excellence with a comitment that would have not been possible in the BYU academy days. There really must be adversity, opposits in all things, especially in sports. I can honestly say I will be rooting for BYU against Oklahoma and I wouldn't have thought that possible until probably this year.

    I think those BYU fans who wanted Utah to lose the Sugar Bowl really were short sighted. I think the overall benefit to the conference from the 2009 Sugar Bowl outcome is palpable. The MWC carries its head high as never before. Utah has brought a rising tide that is lifting all boats as BYU once did. We should see the results in recruiting across the conference in the next few years. I think you see a fire in Bronco's public statements and even the rumors quoting him we haven't seen before.

    A take away from the thread on BYU's big games is that BYU had a remarkable golden age from 1976 through the 1990's, but it has a ways to go to achieve those heights it experienced. If it ever does, maybe 2008 will have been the kick in the ass BYU and its coach needed.
    Last edited by SeattleUte; 01-14-2009, 09:26 AM.
    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

    --Jonathan Swift

  • #2
    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
    I can honestly say I will be rooting for BYU against Oklahoma and I wouldn't have thought that possible until probably this year.
    et tu, Seattle?

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    • #3
      You are a very interesting person. I wish I had nominated you for something in the 2009 CUFfies. Next year.
      Get confident, stupid
      -landpoke

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
        This is not a troll. I've been meaning to write this but you guys keep pissing me off.

        3D the other day described how BYU's 1996 season was a break through in that a mid-major played and won a New Year's bowl (which I know used to be the major bowls, though at that time the Cotton, which had hosted some "NC" and other great games, was in decline, displaced by the Fiesta). His post was well stated and I agree with him.

        But I think Utah owes BYU a more prfound debt. We see Lavelle's legacy all over college football, at Texas Tech, up at Washington, even all over the NFL. It goes on and on. He has left an impressive mark of inovation and legacy. Utah, being so close, maybe has benefited more than anyone. In the 1980's Utah concsiously began trying to develop a passing attack mimicking BYU's. Yes, Utah had no history to speak of until 1994. And of course, Kyle Whittingham himself is of the Lavelle tree.

        But even beyond this, I think BYU's success drove Utah to try to achieve excellence with a comitment that would have not been possible in the BYU academy days. There really must be adversity, opposits in all things, especially in sports. I can honestly say I will be rooting for BYU against Oklahoma and I wouldn't have thought that possible until probably this year.

        I think those BYU fans who wanted Utah to lose the Sugar Bowl really were short sighted. I think the overall benefit to the conference from the 2009 Sugar Bowl outcome is palpable. The MWC carries its head high as never before. Utah has brought a rising tide that is lifting all boats as BYU once did. We should see the results in recruiting across the conference in the next few years. I think you see a fire in Bronco's public statements and even the rumors quoting him we haven't seen before.

        A take away from the thread on BYU's big games is that BYU had a remarkable golden age from 1976 through the 1990's, but it has a ways to go to achieve those heights it experienced. If it ever does, maybe 2008 will have been the kick in the ass BYU and its coach needed.
        What Windbaggery.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by RockyBalboa View Post
          What Windbaggery.
          No one ever accused me of that before.
          When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

          --Jonathan Swift

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Babs View Post
            et tu, Seattle?
            I have to do what's best for the Utes.

            I hate to break it to you but as I watched the BCS game I wanted Florida to win.
            When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

            --Jonathan Swift

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
              This is not a troll. I've been meaning to write this but you guys keep pissing me off.

              3D the other day described how BYU's 1996 season was a break through in that a mid-major played and won a New Year's bowl (which I know used to be the major bowls, though at that time the Cotton, which had hosted some "NC" and other great games, was in decline, displaced by the Fiesta). His post was well stated and I agree with him.

              But I think Utah owes BYU a more prfound debt. We see Lavelle's legacy all over college football, at Texas Tech, up at Washington, even all over the NFL. It goes on and on. He has left an impressive mark of inovation and legacy. Utah, being so close, maybe has benefited more than anyone. In the 1980's Utah concsiously began trying to develop a passing attack mimicking BYU's. Yes, Utah had no history to speak of until 1994. And of course, Kyle Whittingham himself is of the Lavelle tree.

              But even beyond this, I think BYU's success drove Utah to try to achieve excellence with a comitment that would have not been possible in the BYU academy days. There really must be adversity, opposits in all things, especially in sports. I can honestly say I will be rooting for BYU against Oklahoma and I wouldn't have thought that possible until probably this year.

              I think those BYU fans who wanted Utah to lose the Sugar Bowl really were short sighted. I think the overall benefit to the conference from the 2009 Sugar Bowl outcome is palpable. The MWC carries its head high as never before. Utah has brought a rising tide that is lifting all boats as BYU once did. We should see the results in recruiting across the conference in the next few years. I think you see a fire in Bronco's public statements and even the rumors quoting him we haven't seen before.

              A take away from the thread on BYU's big games is that BYU had a remarkable golden age from 1976 through the 1990's, but it has a ways to go to achieve those heights it experienced. If it ever does, maybe 2008 will have been the kick in the ass BYU and its coach needed.
              I love you!
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              • #8
                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                I have to do what's best for the Utes.

                I hate to break it to you but as I watched the BCS game I wanted Florida to win.
                How was that what was best for the Utes? Would Utah not have had a better chance at a split "national title" had Oklahoma won? Or did you think "number 2" was as high as was possible?
                Get confident, stupid
                -landpoke

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                  How was that what was best for the Utes? Would Utah not have had a better chance at a split "national title" had Oklahoma won? Or did you think "number 2" was as high as was possible?
                  The better Alabama looked the better the Utes looked. My analysis was simple.
                  When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                  --Jonathan Swift

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                    I hate to break it to you but as I watched the BCS game I wanted Florida to win.
                    I'm sorry, Seattle. You're dead to me.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                      You are a very interesting person. I wish I had nominated you for something in the 2009 CUFfies. Next year.
                      Don't worry. I nominated him for at least a couple of categories. You will get to vote soon.
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                      • #12
                        USC also owes a debt to Lavelle but don't hold your breath for a thank you from him because he loves to lord it over his fellow BYU fans.
                        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                        --Jonathan Swift

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                          USC also owes a debt to Lavelle but don't hold your breath for a thank you from him because he loves to lord it over his fellow BYU fans.
                          Dear LaVelle,

                          Thanks for scheduling a home and home with USC before you retired. Those 2 wins (one of them was an incredibly easy W) helped us achieve back-to-back national championships, as well as 1 Heisman trophy.

                          Your friend,

                          USC
                          Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                            USC also owes a debt to Lavelle but don't hold your breath for a thank you from him because he loves to lord it over his fellow BYU fans.
                            Wow....so John McKay, John Robinson, Mike Garrett, OJ, Charles White and Marcus Allen owe something to Lavelle? Chow hasn't been around since '04 & there isn't much crying over Sarks departure, so exactly what is owed?

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                            • #15
                              junkie, I knew you wouldn't acknowledge my magnanimity with this thread.

                              3D has more class.
                              When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                              --Jonathan Swift

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