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  • Adam James sounds like a douche bag...

    PAP posted a plausible summary of events on CB.

    http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/...tml?id=5129346

    I think it's probably pretty close to the reality of the situation. Whiny little prima donna with a famous dad gets coach fired - but only because the University he worked for wanted an excuse to get rid of him.

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    Which begs the question: What noise does a DB sound like? I shudder at the thought.

    I'm pretty there's 800,001 reasons.
    Last edited by clackamascoug; 12-30-2009, 03:41 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by clackamascoug View Post
      Which begs the question: What noise does a DB sound like? I shudder at the thought.

      I'm pretty there's 800,001 reasons.
      This is a question I have been pondering myself for quite some time now. Will do you some research and report the results to me a.s.a.p.? This is a very troubling issue.

      And yes, I approve this thread.
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      • #4
        Is the language really necessary?

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        • #5
          I don't get this story. I understand the issues about treating players with concussions in a proper manner, but the way it has been reported in the media is just strange. CBS Sports comes out with all these emails from former players and coaches supporting Leach and bad talking James. Other media outlets have offered pretty neutral stories.

          ESPN's reporting has been rather spotty almost to the point of egregious. They interview their employee, who is an active protagonist in the drama, and basically under report all the details mentioned in other reports and frame everything in a light that is favorable only to the player (the need to protect the players' safety and health, vagueness as to what actually happened, and terms that portray Leach in a negative light). What put it over the top for me was the half-time show during the Holiday Bowl tonight. Both Mays and Holz dog-piled Leach. They quoted a TTech player (who is apparently a close friend of Adam James) about the alleged mistreatment. They play a statement from TTech's chancellor about the firing, and and then as the icing on the cake they play a movie shot from Adam's cell phone that is supposed to have been taken during the punishment. It's rather convenient that ESPN got that tonight, even better that they

          I think ESPN is a bit too close to this story to be counted as objective. I haven't seen anything balanced about their coverage. It's all Craig/Adam James, all the time and they completely fail to acknowledge the reports from Adam's teammates who support Leach and rip him a new one. Highly suspect if you ask me.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
            I don't get this story. I understand the issues about treating players with concussions in a proper manner, but the way it has been reported in the media is just strange. CBS Sports comes out with all these emails from former players and coaches supporting Leach and bad talking James. Other media outlets have offered pretty neutral stories.

            ESPN's reporting has been rather spotty almost to the point of egregious. They interview their employee, who is an active protagonist in the drama, and basically under report all the details mentioned in other reports and frame everything in a light that is favorable only to the player (the need to protect the players' safety and health, vagueness as to what actually happened, and terms that portray Leach in a negative light). What put it over the top for me was the half-time show during the Holiday Bowl tonight. Both Mays and Holz dog-piled Leach. They quoted a TTech player (who is apparently a close friend of Adam James) about the alleged mistreatment. They play a statement from TTech's chancellor about the firing, and and then as the icing on the cake they play a movie shot from Adam's cell phone that is supposed to have been taken during the punishment. It's rather convenient that ESPN got that tonight, even better that they

            I think ESPN is a bit too close to this story to be counted as objective. I haven't seen anything balanced about their coverage. It's all Craig/Adam James, all the time and they completely fail to acknowledge the reports from Adam's teammates who support Leach and rip him a new one. Highly suspect if you ask me.
            The Mays/Holtz thing was uncomfortable for me. Mays looked like he wanted to fight someone as he was ranting. If what the other news sources are reporting is true and ESPN is wrong, Craig James should lose his job.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by CJF View Post
              The Mays/Holtz thing was uncomfortable for me. Mays looked like he wanted to fight someone as he was ranting. If what the other news sources are reporting is true and ESPN is wrong, Craig James should lose his job.
              For beginners, James will fade away from ESPN and the TT AD will be looking fo a new job as well.

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              • #8
                Here's the thing, though. Even if you assume the facts as favorably toward Leach as possible, which means that Adam James is a little prick and Texas Tech is firing him over money, you have a coach that meant so little to the University in spite of all he did for that football program that they were anxious to fire him at the first possible chance.

                At this point, Leach should think about what comes next. He should seriously consider dropping his blitz against TT, even if he thinks he is likely to prevail. The longer this thing drags out, the more athletic directors looking for a new coach might think twice about hiring somebody with so much baggage. Money isn't the only expense of litigation.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by All-American View Post
                  Here's the thing, though. Even if you assume the facts as favorably toward Leach as possible, which means that Adam James is a little prick and Texas Tech is firing him over money, you have a coach that meant so little to the University in spite of all he did for that football program that they were anxious to fire him at the first possible chance.

                  At this point, Leach should think about what comes next. He should seriously consider dropping his blitz against TT, even if he thinks he is likely to prevail. The longer this thing drags out, the more athletic directors looking for a new coach might think twice about hiring somebody with so much baggage. Money isn't the only expense of litigation.
                  Likewise, why does any coach want to go to TT at this point unless this will be your first HC gig. Who would want to work for that admin and AD?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                    Likewise, why does any coach want to go to TT at this point unless this will be your first HC gig. Who would want to work for that admin and AD?
                    But that point speaks even more to mine. There are all kinds of reasons why you wouldn't want to make a move like this, and yet, TT was anxious to do it. Any AD wanting to hire Leach has to ask why TT would go to such trouble to rid themselves of him.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                      Likewise, why does any coach want to go to TT at this point unless this will be your first HC gig. Who would want to work for that admin and AD?

                      Tommy Tuberville apparently. Maybe because of the double T's?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by All-American View Post
                        But that point speaks even more to mine. There are all kinds of reasons why you wouldn't want to make a move like this, and yet, TT was anxious to do it. Any AD wanting to hire Leach has to ask why TT would go to such trouble to rid themselves of him.
                        It wasn't really about the money. $400,000 x 4 years is peanuts in the the overall scheme of things at TT. Coaches get fired all the time and that's an average buy out. TT admisitrators just hated his guts, for whatever reason. It's that simple. In the late Roman Empire they'd have chopped him to bits.

                        We've seen this before, right? Tarkanian at UNLV, Knight at Indiana, Neuheisel at Washington. YOhio said Majerus was a similar situation. I know LAUte was part of Hill's conspiracy to to get rid of Majerus, so he can speak to this.
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                        • #13
                          This is going to turn out bad for James, in the end, as well.

                          Texas Tech football trainer contradicts Adam James' story - ESPN

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
                            This is going to turn out bad for James, in the end, as well.

                            Texas Tech football trainer contradicts Adam James' story - ESPN
                            I think the coach got the shaft. That's a shame.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                              I think the coach got the shaft. That's a shame.
                              You don't think the trainers have an interest in shading the truth? It's amazing to me that somebody, even Leach, didn't say,before Leach was suspended, "Hey! This is a big misunderstanding. He was where he was supposed to be, beside a big machine monotoring his brain like a CAT scan, with two trainers nearby!"
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