Question for the Ute fans on the board.........

[cougjunkie]

Maybe I missed it but how come before Utah played Bama we didnt see any posts that said things like:

"If utah beats Bama in 2 weeks they belong in the NC discussion"

or

"Utah should be playing in the national title game not the Sugar Bowl?

Were you just happy that Utah was in another BCS game? Now all of the sudden because you beat Bama you deserve a shot at the national title? What about the teams that before their bowl game deserved a shot? Like USC, Texas, Florida and Oklahoma?

[Mormon Red Death]

http://www.cougaruteforum.com/showth...l+championship

[TripletDaddy]

I think the answer is obvious. Little Brother Syndrome.

Big Brother talks all season long.

Little brother gets excited when he finally lands a punch.

Also, for as much as people had awesome excuses, Little Brother Syndrome was the reason most here did not go to the game. They didn't think they were going to win, so why bother? Sure, it was a long flight, blah blah blah......but we all know the reason.

[Mormon Red Death]

The point was that everyone knew because the of the system Utah had no chance of playing in the sham of the bcs game.

[cougjunkie]

http://www.cougaruteforum.com/showth...l+championship

That thread proves my point.

Not one person said that Utah deserved to be in the NC game, that they could possibly "wiggle" there way in to the NC game if 10 different things happened. None of those things happened, the teams ahead of them keep winning, so why do people think they deserve it now?

[SteelBlue]

I think the obvious answer is that nobody really thought Utah would win like THAT. I know orangeute and others believed a win was possible, but an ass kicking was not in the equation. After watching that game, it became obvious to a lot of people that Utah belongs in that conversation but prior to that game it just didn't feel that way.

[cougjunkie]

I think the obvious answer is that nobody really thought Utah would win like THAT. I know orangeute and others believed a win was possible, but an ass kicking was not in the equation. After watching that game, it became obvious to a lot of people that Utah belongs in that conversation but prior to that game it just didn't feel that way.

I can see that, but Oklahoma and Texas have been kicking the ass of top 10 teams all year long. They didnt just do it once.

It just seems silly to me that after 1 game Utah all of the sudden deserves to be national champs, when even at 12-0 nobody was bitching that they didnt have a shot at the title.

Does Boston College deserve to be ranked number 1 because they beat North Carolina in hoops the other night?

[8BR]

I think the answer is obvious. Little Brother Syndrome.

Big Brother talks all season long.

Little brother gets excited when he finally lands a punch.

Also, for as much as people had awesome excuses, Little Brother Syndrome was the reason most here did not go to the game. They didn't think they were going to win, so why bother? Sure, it was a long flight, blah blah blah......but we all know the reason.

I get confused with all the different behaviors associated with LBS (there seem to be many) but I'm not following how it could lead to one not thinking Utah was going to win. And who is the Big Brother in this case? Chet?

[smokymountainrain]

Does Boston College deserve to be ranked number 1 because they beat North Carolina in hoops the other night?

Speaking of that, it's good to know that Harvard > UNC in men's hoops.

[TripletDaddy]

I get confused with all the different behaviors associated with LBS (there seem to be many) but I'm not following how it could lead to one not thinking Utah was going to win. And who is the Big Brother in this case? Chet?

I think it is just a general atittude.

Big Brother is any of the BCS teams you love to hate. The fans are annoying because they never think their team is NOT good.

LBS for Utah.....Utah fans, including pretty much everyone here, also bought into the SEC myth prior to the game. Utah fans didnt really think they were going to win. A shot at winning? Some definitely believed that. But did they go in expecting to win...the way Alabama fans did? No way. Why? Because Utes are in the MWC and have LBS. If they went in expecting to win, this win would not be such a huge deal.

Truthfully, the Utes had an excellent season. they won convincingly in their BCS bowl. That is great. But for Big Brother, they do that annually. Or at least quite often. It is hard to describe but easy to picture in my mind.

I still say that the truth is that most here skipped the game because they just didn't truly believe. The Utes just played in the biggest football game of the school's entire history...and some people didn't go because it was too far, they didn't want to go alone (wtf?), they wanted to save money to fly to Utah (wtf? utah will always be there. skip it and go to the game), etc...all those guys are now kicking themselves wishing they had gone.

I thought it interesting that Gidget said that Surfah could go to the BYU/OU game "if" they have a chance to win. Keep in mind, I am not condemning it. Just pointing out that expectation drives fan behavior to a great deal. Those here that say they skipped the SUGAR BOWL for reasons other than expectation.....for the most part, I am not buying it.

[8BR]

I still say that the truth is that most here skipped the game because they just didn't truly believe. The Utes just played in the biggest football game of the school's entire history...and some people didn't go because it was too far, they didn't want to go alone (wtf?), they wanted to save money to fly to Utah (wtf? utah will always be there. skip it and go to the game), etc...all those guys are now kicking themselves wishing they had gone.

I think you're making a big stretch tying your wtfs to LBS. For me, even if I'd had the clairvoyance to see the exact outcome of the game, I still don't see myself flying to NOLA, without at least one homie in tow. Does that make me less of a fan? Maybe it does.

But man, last Friday was one of the best sports memories I have. On par with Utah over Arizona '98, the last two minutes of Super Bowl XXIII (92-yard drive), Clark's performance in the 1989 NLCS and SY's six TDs in SB XXIX.

[il Padrino Ute]

I still say that the truth is that most here skipped the game because they just didn't truly believe. The Utes just played in the biggest football game of the school's entire history...and some people didn't go because it was too far, they didn't want to go alone (wtf?), they wanted to save money to fly to Utah (wtf? utah will always be there. skip it and go to the game), etc...

This is absolute bullshit.

Some of us had more important things to do, such as family obligations, church obligations, etc. I missed the Fiesta Bowl despite having already purchased my tickets because my wife's grandfather passed away a few days after Christmas and the funeral was on the 31st of December. I could have gone, but being at home with my wife and her family is infinitely more important than a football game.

I won't get into why I didn't go to the Sugar Bowl, but it was something more important than a football game and quite frankly, I have no reason to have to justify it to you or anyone else.

[TripletDaddy]

This is absolute bullshit.

Some of us had more important things to do, such as family obligations, church obligations, etc. I missed the Fiesta Bowl despite having already purchased my tickets because my wife's grandfather passed away a few days after Christmas and the funeral was on the 31st of December. I could have gone, but being at home with my wife and her family is infinitely more important than a football game.

I won't get into why I didn't go to the Sugar Bowl, but it was something more important than a football game and quite frankly, I have no reason to have to justify it to you or anyone else.

hey, I said most. I didnt say all. Of course there are real reasons.

Family issues, lack of funds, illness....of course when people cite those reasons, they are valid.

I am talking about "the flight was too far" or "i couldn't find anyone to go with me." those excuses...not very good.

It isn't absolute BS. For it to be absolute BS, that would mean that I am way off....that the majority of Ute fans that didn't go chose to not go for really important reasons. I say that the majority that did not go actually were swayed by the fact that they didn't even think the Utes would win.

In fairness, despite your buying the ticket, did you expect the Utes to win? Not "hope" or "think they could," but "expect." And if not....why? Was it because of the SEC speed, SEC conference, etc?

[TripletDaddy]

I think you're making a big stretch tying your wtfs to LBS. For me, even if I'd had the clairvoyance to see the exact outcome of the game, I still don't see myself flying to NOLA, without at least one homie in tow. Does that make me less of a fan? Maybe it does.

But man, last Friday was one of the best sports memories I have. On par with Utah over Arizona '98, the last two minutes of Super Bowl XXIII (92-yard drive), Clark's performance in the 1989 NLCS and SY's six TDs in SB XXIX.

Nah, has no bearing on how big a fan you are.

We are simply talking about symptoms of LBS. You can be a huge fan and suffer from LBS.

If the thought that Utah was likely not going to win against this SEC power was a factor in your decision, then LBS. If not, then no worries. You are cured. I think that most here weighed that into their decision to not go. I could be off, but I don't believe I am.

And I don't doubt that the SUGAR high was enjoyable. That was a dominating win.

[il Padrino Ute]

hey, I said most. I didnt say all. Of course there are real reasons.

Family issues, lack of funds, illness....of course when people cite those reasons, they are valid.

I am talking about "the flight was too far" or "i couldn't find anyone to go with me." those excuses...not very good.

It isn't absolute BS. For it to be absolute BS, that would mean that I am way off....that the majority of Ute fans that didn't go chose to not go for really important reasons. I say that the majority that did not go actually were swayed by the fact that they didn't even think the Utes would win.

In fairness, despite your buying the ticket, did you expect the Utes to win? Not "hope" or "think they could," but "expect." And if not....why? Was it because of the SEC speed, SEC conference, etc?

I didn't buy a Sugar Bowl ticket because the reasons I stayed home were already in place before the Utah/TCU game. The outcome of the game had absolutely no bearing on whether I was going to New Orleans to see it.

Did I expect the Utes to win? My truthful answer is that the only thing I ever expect to happen in games, no matter the sport, is to be entertained. I felt the Utes could win it if they played their best game of the season, but I didn't expect them to win or lose.

And it is absolute BS because you assume to know why the majority of those that didn't go chose to not go.