Another coach denies Notre Dame

[LiveCoug]

Another coach denies Notre Dame

[SeattleUte]

Have they offered Joseph Smith?

[SCcoug]

Have they offered Joseph Smith?

Can't he is mormon.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/hayes...neil05.article

[Surfah]

Mortensen on ESPN reporting Brian Kelly leaving Cincy for Notre Dame. I know he's a hot coach right now, but if that's the best ND can do I am afraid their days of relevance are done.

[SCcoug]

Mortensen on ESPN reporting Brian Kelly leaving Cincy for Notre Dame. I know he's a hot coach right now, but if that's the best ND can do I am afraid their days of relevance are done.

ND doesn't need to do too much to be relevant, even if they are half decent they'll get plenty of hype and be given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to rankings and bowl games. History has shown they can lose two games and still go to a BCS game. With decent coaching this year it is conceivable that they go 10-2 or so and a possible BCS game.

[SeattleUte]

Mortensen on ESPN reporting Brian Kelly leaving Cincy for Notre Dame. I know he's a hot coach right now, but if that's the best ND can do I am afraid their days of relevance are done.

He took a program that was a football wasteland and brought it to the brink of the NC. Cincinnati has been in the rankings now for several years under him. Here Patterson is a god and Bronco is a genius, but Kelly is a bad coach.

[Art Vandelay]

Here Patterson is a god and Bronco is a genius, but Kelly Whittingham is a bad coach.

I fixed your error. Do you even read Goat's posts?

[CJF]

He took a program that was a football wasteland and brought it to the brink of the NC. Cincinnati has been in the rankings now for several years under him. Here Patterson is a god and Bronco is a genius, but Kelly is a bad coach.

I think Mark Dantonio had more to do with taking that program out of football wasteland, but Kelly has done a good job taking it to a new level.

[myboynoah]

He took a program that was a football wasteland and brought it to the brink of the NC. Cincinnati has been in the rankings now for several years under him. Here Patterson is a god and Bronco is a genius, but Kelly is a bad coach.

Please point to where he called him a bad coach.

I took his point to be that in the past, ND would have been able to bring in an historically proven winner (a la Holtz and Devine) at the highest level. Kelly's had a great 3-year run at Cincinnati, but has less than 10 years of D1 HC experience. It is more a reflection of how far the ND brand has fallen.

[Jarid in Cedar]

Mortensen on ESPN reporting Brian Kelly leaving Cincy for Notre Dame. I know he's a hot coach right now, but if that's the best ND can do I am afraid their days of relevance are done.

Here is the story. Sounds like a few players are miffed.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4732205

[TripletDaddy]

This is a suicide mission.

He has no QB for next year and his main WR is gone, as well. That is not a great way to start your first year.

The Irish have the most deluded fanbase in the country. They think they are going to contend for a NC when in reality, Notre Dame doesn't even have the pieces in place to contend right now.

Currently, Notre Dame is giving coaches 5 or so years before they get the boot. At best Kelly could hope to bring in his own recruits and lay foundation by year 3. He had better hope ND recruiting stays strong this off-season. How does Kelly recruit when he is consistently going against the big boys around the country? Why didn't Notre Dame make a stronger play for Urban?

Might be time to bust out the kelly green jerseys. This guy will need them.

[falafel]

Might be time to bust out the kelly green jerseys. This guy will need them.

I'm all for it!

[TripletDaddy]

I'm all for it!

[Surfah]

Please point to where he called him a bad coach.

I took his point to be that in the past, ND would have been able to bring in an historically proven winner (a la Holtz and Devine) at the highest level. Kelly's had a great 3-year run at Cincinnati, but has less than 10 years of D1 HC experience. It is more a reflection of how far the ND brand has fallen.

Exactly. Brian Kelly seems to be a good coach. But he's not a big name guy with a lot of experience and clout that all of a sudden makes HS kids around the country say I want to play for that guy. My reaction would be the same if ND hired Whittingham or Bronco.

[UtahDan]

This is a suicide mission.

He has no QB for next year and his main WR is gone, as well. That is not a great way to start your first year.

The Irish have the most deluded fanbase in the country. They think they are going to contend for a NC when in reality, Notre Dame doesn't even have the pieces in place to contend right now.

Currently, Notre Dame is giving coaches 5 or so years before they get the boot. At best Kelly could hope to bring in his own recruits and lay foundation by year 3. He had better hope ND recruiting stays strong this off-season. How does Kelly recruit when he is consistently going against the big boys around the country? Why didn't Notre Dame make a stronger play for Urban?

Might be time to bust out the kelly green jerseys. This guy will need them.

It isn't really a suicide mission. It is just like being the Redskins coach. It may be tough for a few years, but when the ultimately fire you you get a swimming pool full of hundies. No passing that up.